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> SCCA Rules, Any gurus out there who have read them?
cnavarro
post May 23 2005, 07:34 PM
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Hey Guys,

There have been some questions asked about substitution of Nickies in place of factory cylinders, both cast iron and mahle nikasils, and I'm just curious how sticktly the rules are read into- is it just that the cylinders must be to the specifications of the factory pieces (since JE's are already used in E and F prod) or do the actual factory pieces have to be retained? Can it be argued that if other aftermarket cylinders are used (Chinese, Brazilian, Mexican), can't Nickies also be used, since it isn't actually factory cylinders being used- just cylinders made to resemble and to the specifications of the original pieces? I appreciate the input guys, it would be nice to have a definative answer on this one for numerous guys out there with Nickies and those considering Nickies for their 911 or 914.
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Jake Raby
post May 23 2005, 09:01 PM
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Well, no one has been protested yet, but there are many competitors with less power than we have generated that very well could say something and I'm sure it would be from pure jealousy (many of those engines have been built by others that have more notorious names in SCCA and that makes it worse too)... Every since Chris' engine made 186 ponies things have gotten very interesting....... Plenty of people have either thought it was a lie or that it had to be illegal- Not true, I had those controls in my hands and the power was true.

I want to get this squared away before I start on 3 Run Offs engines very soon because I refuse to lose a podium finish to some stupid damn rule book that is too vague, especially from some whiner that would wait for someone to qualify (at the run offs) to complain.

I really don't have the patience for these people and their rules and their lack of clarification until they "have to" make a ruling, it seems pretty dumb to have rules and not be open with their interpretation to anyone working with an engine that may be "grey"...

This may well be the last season I work with these classes, I simply do not have the time or desire to try to read between lines and talk to people that can't give me answers until race day- if they make rules someone should have a full time friggin job to answer questions asked- PERIOD!.

One of the main reasons I wanted to do these types of engines was to put to work the modern developments for these engines and if we can't do that within the bounds of the rule book I am not gaining anything by building the engines, winning is not my main goal believe it or not, but gathering data useful for other demanding applications is.

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cnavarro   SCCA Rules   May 23 2005, 07:34 PM
bam914   I just read the rules and it is not clear on air c...   May 23 2005, 07:48 PM
Jake Raby   I really wish that SCCA was not so hard to deal wi...   May 23 2005, 07:56 PM
Joe Ricard   Never mentions material of cylinders. However if s...   May 23 2005, 08:09 PM
Jake Raby   Well, no one has been protested yet, but there are...   May 23 2005, 09:01 PM
Thorshammer   Charles, I will try to shed some light on this, b...   May 23 2005, 09:05 PM
Jake Raby   Erik, Thanks for the post... That was the way I in...   May 23 2005, 09:13 PM
Thorshammer   You and me both, Even though I maintain a good re...   May 23 2005, 09:34 PM
Racer Chris   The guys spreading the rumor that Nickies aren...   May 23 2005, 10:07 PM
Brett W   Two words Super Production. Bring your hammer and...   May 23 2005, 11:00 PM
groot   I think it's very clear Nickies are allowed in...   May 24 2005, 03:45 AM
Brett W   Actually GT3 rules specify cast iron sleeves. Don...   May 24 2005, 06:46 AM
Racer Chris   <...   May 24 2005, 07:07 AM
Racer Chris   Obviously this topic has hit a raw nerve with some...   May 24 2005, 06:28 PM
redshift   It's not me! Just clearing things up. C...   May 24 2005, 06:35 PM
Brett W   Sounds like a loser that rides around in the back ...   May 24 2005, 11:20 PM
Racer Chris   ...   May 25 2005, 01:23 AM
Racer Chris   <...   May 25 2005, 10:51 PM
nein14-6   Now Chris, lets not go burning bridges here. I kn...   May 26 2005, 06:12 AM
Racer Chris   Rob, We could beat around the bush all day, but un...   May 26 2005, 06:46 AM
william harris   Chris you are right, but there seems to be an elem...   May 26 2005, 07:38 AM
J P Stein   All the whoopin' & hollerin' aside, there ...   May 26 2005, 05:36 PM
Thorshammer   Bottom line is exactly that, write the SCCA. Get a...   May 26 2005, 06:23 PM
Brett W   Now you guys see why the Mazdas, Nissans, and Toyo...   May 26 2005, 09:28 PM


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