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dbledsoe
post Jul 5 2005, 11:03 AM
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Got the engine & transaxle into the car, bolted up at the back, and ready to fabricate a few minor parts to make the new forward crossmember mate to the body. The forward crossmember was bought from Speedway Motors in Lincoln Nebraska for a grand total of $58 to my door (http://www.speedwaymotors.com/). The crossmember clears the shift linkage just fine. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mueba.gif)


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post Jul 5 2005, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE (Phoenix-MN @ Jul 5 2005, 11:17 AM)
Don,
How did you end up modifying your front mounting bar to get the engine to sit up higher? Looks like it fits in there real nice. Did you have to cut off the end of the waterpump shaft for any extra clearance at the firewall?

Paul

Hello Paul,

The cross member came with two 1/4" thick uprights welded to it and a 3/4" tube welded into the upright that that extends about 1" from each side of the upright, fore and aft. The tube is what the rubber engine mount bolts pass through when bolting the engine in place. Luckily the uprights are off set about 1/3" from the centerline of the cross member (as viewed when looking down on the cross member). I cut off 1" of the 3/4" tube on the forward side of the cross member. Between that and the approx 1/3" off set I was able to get the cross member in place when bolted to the rubber engine mounts and slid all the way to the forward end of the rubber mounting blocks. That places the cross member slightly aft of the centerline of the original cross member. I then cut a pair of replacement bars to bolt to the engine cross member body mounting points from 1" wide x 1/4" thick 4140 steel bar stock (they replace the stamped steel pieces that the original cross member bolted to). I now plane to drill the mounting holes in the 4140 bar to match those of the body mounting points and will then drill a hole in the bar stock to mate up with the new cross member centerline. Since my cross member sit on top of the body mounting point, rather than hanging below it, I will have my machinist make a pair of round bar stock spacers to raise/lower the engine to the correct height for proper orientation i.e., level with the car fore and aft. I also cut a pair of 1 1/2" round bar 6" long that slip inside the tubular cross member. Those can be slid in or out to get the correct width to the mounting body points (the cross member as bought from Speedway is too short to span the full width of the centerline to centerline of the original cross member bolting holes so had to have its width extended).

It sounds more complex than it is. Once I get all the pieces fabricated I'll snap some photos of it to give you a better idea what I'm talking about. Right now the front of the engine is actually supported by a 4x4 block of wood so I can get the cross member in and out to fabricate the additional pieces to complete the forward mount.

I took your advice and cut 1" off the front of the water pump shaft. I did that before trying slip the engine up in there. That is some very hard material they make the shaft from. I started to, or should say attempted, to cut it with a brand new 32 teeth/inch hack saw and blade. Didn't even make a mark on the shaft! So I got out the trusty die grinder and cut-off wheel and went to work on it, and even that took some time. I'm glad you mentioned that in your other message because I would have found out while trying to lift the engine into the body that it would need to come out again to cut 1" of the shaft off.

It looks like the best place to mount the alternator will be on the lower left side front of the engine. I suspect I'll need to fabricate a bracket for that.

Best regards,
Don
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dbledsoe   Update Buick V6 in 914   Jul 5 2005, 11:03 AM
dbledsoe   And another   Jul 5 2005, 11:05 AM
dbledsoe   And another   Jul 5 2005, 11:06 AM
bondo   NICE!!! And I don't think I have E...   Jul 5 2005, 11:06 AM
914GT   Looks sweet! Great job!   Jul 5 2005, 11:08 AM
dbledsoe   And another   Jul 5 2005, 11:08 AM
ClayPerrine   That is one funny looking carburetor!!   Jul 5 2005, 11:10 AM
Rotary'14   Looks like a clean install! Congrats on a gre...   Jul 5 2005, 11:12 AM
914GT   Have you figured out how you'll make the bend ...   Jul 5 2005, 11:12 AM
dbledsoe     Jul 5 2005, 11:12 AM
neo914-6   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/ht...   Jul 5 2005, 11:15 AM
dbledsoe     Jul 5 2005, 11:16 AM
dbledsoe     Jul 5 2005, 11:27 AM
ClayPerrine     Jul 5 2005, 12:11 PM
neo914-6     Jul 5 2005, 01:02 PM
Phoenix-MN   Don, How did you end up modifying your front mount...   Jul 5 2005, 01:17 PM
914GT   <...   Jul 5 2005, 01:33 PM
dbledsoe   ...   Jul 5 2005, 03:11 PM
dbledsoe     Jul 5 2005, 03:16 PM
propricer   Wow ... absolutely gorgeous work ... I'm jealo...   Jul 5 2005, 03:25 PM
dbledsoe   ...   Jul 5 2005, 04:16 PM
dbledsoe   Here's a picture from the Speedway Motors web ...   Jul 5 2005, 04:23 PM
drive-ability   Very clean job, really can't imagine anything ...   Jul 5 2005, 07:03 PM
hargray2   Sounds like a good idea to me. LOOKS like a good ...   Jul 5 2005, 07:23 PM
Brent   Don, The best pics I've seen (clarity) on th...   Jul 5 2005, 07:28 PM
dbledsoe     Jul 5 2005, 09:17 PM
dbledsoe   <...   Jul 5 2005, 11:46 PM
nine14cats   Wow! I really like the looks of that V6 in th...   Jul 5 2005, 11:55 PM
Brent   <...   Jul 6 2005, 12:59 AM
yahthatsright   What kind of hp/torque will the six make?   Jul 6 2005, 07:41 AM
dbledsoe   I finally got around to completing the forward mot...   Jul 22 2005, 10:33 AM
dbledsoe   Close up of end piece.   Jul 22 2005, 10:34 AM
dbledsoe   OK!!! We have ignition. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/...   Oct 1 2005, 08:47 PM
914GT   Great news Don! Looking forward to more pictur...   Oct 1 2005, 09:46 PM
dmenche914   do you have any photos to document the radiator / ...   Oct 1 2005, 11:01 PM
Gint   More pics!   Oct 1 2005, 11:21 PM
pjhaun   Don: What carburator are you using? Also what ty...   Oct 2 2005, 12:08 AM
MecGen   Hey This post shows clearly: Clean work Amazing p...   Oct 2 2005, 02:37 AM
dbledsoe   <...   Oct 2 2005, 07:57 PM
dbledsoe     Oct 2 2005, 08:00 PM
dbledsoe     Oct 2 2005, 08:07 PM
dbledsoe     Oct 2 2005, 08:28 PM
dbledsoe     Oct 2 2005, 08:44 PM
dbledsoe   Radiator and fans installed, although I still have...   Oct 4 2005, 09:36 AM
dbledsoe   another   Oct 4 2005, 09:37 AM
dbledsoe   another oops!   Oct 4 2005, 09:37 AM
dbledsoe   a real another Still some clean up work to do on ...   Oct 4 2005, 09:40 AM
dbledsoe   another   Oct 4 2005, 09:42 AM
jimkelly   I wonder what percentage of air is gonna be able t...   Oct 4 2005, 09:45 AM
dbledsoe   <...   Oct 4 2005, 09:49 AM
914GT   Nice clean radiator install Don. I was thinking of...   Oct 4 2005, 09:50 AM
dbledsoe   I have other images to upload but for some reason ...   Oct 4 2005, 09:54 AM
dbledsoe   lines beneath the car   Oct 4 2005, 09:56 AM
dbledsoe   Another beneath   Oct 4 2005, 09:56 AM
dbledsoe   Expansion/fill tank   Oct 4 2005, 09:58 AM
dbledsoe     Oct 4 2005, 10:02 AM
dbledsoe   I mounted the coil to the old heater blower mount ...   Oct 4 2005, 10:05 AM
dbledsoe   A tad short on carb to engine lid clearance thanks...   Oct 4 2005, 10:07 AM
dbledsoe   I can close the engine lid but I had to cut out th...   Oct 4 2005, 10:10 AM
nine14cats   Beautiful Work! http://ww...   Oct 4 2005, 10:13 AM
dbledsoe   <...   Oct 4 2005, 10:42 AM
dbledsoe     Oct 4 2005, 10:58 AM
Brian Mifsud   Hi, Sure is nice work. How does the engine's ...   Oct 4 2005, 11:06 AM
914GT   Thanks for the air cleaner info. Here's how I ...   Oct 4 2005, 11:07 AM
pjhaun   <...   Oct 4 2005, 12:43 PM
dbledsoe     Oct 4 2005, 12:45 PM
dbledsoe     Oct 4 2005, 01:43 PM
dbledsoe     Oct 4 2005, 08:58 PM
914GT   Don, I made the intake opening on the red 76 the ...   Oct 4 2005, 09:35 PM
pjhaun   Don: I forgot to ask you, What kind/type alternat...   Oct 5 2005, 12:09 AM
dbledsoe     Oct 5 2005, 09:40 AM
dbledsoe   Installed   Oct 5 2005, 09:41 AM
914GT   It would be interesting to apply this motor mount ...   Oct 5 2005, 09:52 AM
dbledsoe   I used the original 914 alternator minus the back ...   Oct 5 2005, 09:59 AM
dbledsoe     Oct 5 2005, 10:55 AM
dbledsoe   OK, it's getting there. Got the new GT Racing...   Oct 14 2005, 11:34 AM
dbledsoe   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Oct 14 2005, 11:35 AM
dbledsoe   Another update on my Buick V6/914 conversion. I...   Jan 19 2006, 03:49 PM
MecGen   Sweet http://www.914world.c...   Jan 19 2006, 06:29 PM
dbledsoe     Jan 19 2006, 09:26 PM
budman5201   Hey whats the horsepower on your engine and weight...   Feb 5 2010, 04:45 PM


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