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> 914/V8 Fan Operation, Conversion Cooling
tyler
post Jul 22 2005, 08:01 AM
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Can you conversion guys tell me how your electric fans operate and if you've modified the air dam?
Put in my 15.5x28 Griffin radiator with 944 Turbo fans on a shroud. Crusin at 70 on the freeway the temp starts at 170 for 6 miles and creeps up to 195 when the fans come on and bring it back to 170. This continues to cycle like this both on the freeway and around town. I'm using a 160 Tsat until the cooling system is done. I ran with the lid off so I know the cuts in the wells are ok. So I figure I'm either blocking the airflow with the fans/shroud or the air dam need to channel the air in somehow. It doesn't seem to me like the temp should cycle like this. I'd like to hear how yours run.
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post Jul 25 2005, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE (tyler @ Jul 25 2005, 07:45 AM)
I have a top cover and there is complete sealing to avoid recirculation. After looking at the Renegade pics, I did some testing and found that the side plates to channel the airflow in (removing turblence) and a little air dam in front to force the air up towards the radiator make a major difference. Ran for ~30 miles (about 80 outside)right on 185, fans never came on. I'd like to see pics of what anyone runs for an air dam since I just used a short piece of sheet metal and there must be something nicer looking and more efficient. I didn't see anything in the Renegade pics.

Tyler,

I thought you had the top cover on shroud removed and hood off at the beginning of this thread. If you installed it AND added a small wing to your air dam, I'd be willing to bet the addition of top cover on shroud as reason for improvement. Please clairify.

The switch used to activate fans provided by RH is mounted 6" or so below top radiator hose on radiator. I questioned the on/off temperatures selected for this switch as well and can only say that the boys in Vegas have quite a reputation when it comes to cooling v8 914s. There on/off numbers were selected through much testing in some of the worst conditions. If I was going to follow someones lead, it would be them.

Since the fans don't provide any cooling above 45 mph or so (according to RH), and you have a adjustable switch, you could lower your "fan on" trigger until you reach a point where the fans never come on when in cruise mode. The lower the point the fans come on when you start slowing down or entering bumper to bumper traffic, the faster cooling takes place in addition to providing more consistant water temperature. Also known as the snowball effect, or how to avoid it.

One other note when performing similar tests: always make sure conditions are the same or close. Make the duration/route/driving style the same. Results will be different when driving in 80F vs. 90F weather.

It looks like your armed with all the right tools (fan on/off indication, adjustable fan switch) and are not suffering from high water temperatures. I'd continue to make changes until you see optimum results while experiencing high outside temperatures.

Good luck,

John
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tyler   914/V8 Fan Operation   Jul 22 2005, 08:01 AM
John2kx   Tyler, It does not sound like you have a real ove...   Jul 22 2005, 08:32 AM
914GT   Tyler, John is right. If you go with a 180 thermo...   Jul 22 2005, 09:15 AM
neo914-6   related question, the tstat of choice is Mr Gasket...   Jul 22 2005, 09:42 AM
MikeP   I've drilled a few small holes around the tsta...   Jul 22 2005, 11:31 AM
bondo   How big are your hoses? I've heard having larg...   Jul 22 2005, 11:52 AM
tyler   Thanks for the comments - I did drill a hole in th...   Jul 22 2005, 11:56 AM
bondo     Jul 22 2005, 12:06 PM
914GT     Jul 22 2005, 12:34 PM
tyler   Hoses are 1" from engine and 1-1/4" back to pump. ...   Jul 22 2005, 12:56 PM
John2kx   ...   Jul 22 2005, 02:13 PM
ewdysar   ALL air entering the trunk through your front open...   Jul 22 2005, 02:18 PM
John2kx     Jul 22 2005, 02:29 PM
pjhaun   <...   Jul 22 2005, 09:23 PM
John2kx   Phillip, I'm going on memory, but think it wa...   Jul 22 2005, 09:31 PM
LS6/914   Is there adequite air flow volume exiting the the ...   Jul 22 2005, 09:37 PM
914GT   Do they make those screw-in thermo-switches adjust...   Jul 22 2005, 10:30 PM
tyler   I have a top cover and there is complete sealing t...   Jul 25 2005, 09:45 AM
tyler   I have a sensor threaded into the radiator for set...   Jul 25 2005, 09:49 AM
914GT   The fans would probably shut off if the water temp...   Jul 25 2005, 10:15 AM
Andyrew   Show us a pic of your air inlet. Show us a pic of ...   Jul 25 2005, 10:21 AM
John2kx     Jul 25 2005, 12:34 PM
tyler   John, You're right, I did make a run with both...   Jul 25 2005, 12:46 PM
John2kx   I found these while surfing a little while ago. M...   Jul 25 2005, 01:11 PM
Terryst1   Tyler: The first question I have is how much HP a...   Jul 25 2005, 07:07 PM
Terryst1   Tyler: By the way, I forgot to mention that I hav...   Jul 25 2005, 07:18 PM
John2kx   Terry, Your name sounds familar and I think I kno...   Jul 25 2005, 08:00 PM


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