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> Brakes, Stopping with M, A, or S
johnmhudson111
post Jul 28 2005, 08:11 AM
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Coupe of questions about brakes. First of all what is the difference between "M", "A", and "S" capliers? Is it the mounting bolt distance? Early vs.Late? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)

Did the 914/6 come with "M" capliers? If not what did they come with? Can these brakes be upgraded to something like the "big reds?

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ClayPerrine
post Jul 28 2005, 08:27 AM
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M caliper. Cast iron 2 piston caliper. Uses 3" bolt spacing. Used on 73 and older 911, 914 and 914/6. Used with a spacer for the vented rotors. Same piston bore, pad size, and bolt pattern as the 914/6 rear caliper.


S Caliper. Aluminum 2 piston caliper. Uses 3.5" bolt spacing. Used on 74 and later 911 S and all 911s with sportomatic. Bigger pads than the M caliper. Had problems with corrosion in the piston bores. Rebuilt ones use a stainless steel sleeve to alleviate this.

A Caliper. Same as the S caliper, but made from cast iron. Bigger pad sizes than the M caliper.


As for upgrading to "Big Reds", you would have to put 74 and later 911 struts on the front to get the correct bolt spacing to fit the caliper, and you have to have 17" wheels for caliper clearance.

My suggestion.. Boxster (Not Boxster S) Monoblocks. There are bolt on adapters for them, and you can fit them under 16" wheels. But you still have to have the 74 and later 911 struts with the 3.5" bolt spacing.


My question to you.. how much brake do you REALLY need? Can you lock the wheels up now? Do you plan on running on a track where you would heat the brakes up enough to warrant the big increase in unsprung weight?

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johnmhudson111   Brakes   Jul 28 2005, 08:11 AM
ClayPerrine   M caliper. Cast iron 2 piston caliper. Uses 3" b...   Jul 28 2005, 08:27 AM
johnmhudson111     Jul 28 2005, 12:20 PM
Eric_Shea   Ahhhhhhhhhhhh Hello, Clay... S-Calipers arrived a...   Jul 28 2005, 08:40 PM
johnmhudson111     Jul 31 2005, 09:34 AM
Series9   Here's too much brake on a 914. They work GRE...   Jul 31 2005, 11:49 AM
Oled   Mike, Good to hear from you. I started off with ...   Jul 31 2005, 03:42 PM
Oled   Total piston area on various calipers M, S, A Fr...   Jul 31 2005, 04:02 PM
Eric_Shea   Joe, That's a "HUGE" brake line. Do you use ...   Jul 31 2005, 04:39 PM
Eric_Shea   And I know what you guys are thinking, after looki...   Jul 31 2005, 04:52 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)     Aug 1 2005, 11:52 AM
Porsche Rescue   Had my coffee. Here's what I see so far. Front...   Aug 1 2005, 12:27 PM
rdauenhauer   Is the machining of the R. stock -4 piston bores o...   Aug 1 2005, 12:42 PM
Eric_Shea   We discussed (Mike Mueller and others in a previou...   Aug 1 2005, 01:32 PM
Porsche Rescue   Here is a front caliper on my conversion car. Anyo...   Aug 1 2005, 01:33 PM
Porsche Rescue   and the right side   Aug 1 2005, 01:34 PM
Porsche Rescue   How about stock 4 caliper with one nipple? As you ...   Aug 1 2005, 01:39 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   Eric, Your quote: "I'll have a 200-220hp -6 in...   Aug 1 2005, 03:42 PM
Eric_Shea   Jim, those are M-Calipers. Early w/o the spacer. ...   Aug 1 2005, 08:02 PM
Porsche Rescue   Eric, they must be 914-4 calipers. I recall that e...   Aug 1 2005, 08:23 PM
Eric_Shea   Early 4's had one bleeder and Ribe head throug...   Aug 1 2005, 08:32 PM
Porsche Rescue   Well, what do I have?   Aug 1 2005, 08:37 PM
Eric_Shea   Early -4 from looking at the bolts and bleeder and...   Aug 1 2005, 08:49 PM
Porsche Rescue   That's the car. Doubt it would have anything t...   Aug 1 2005, 09:10 PM
Porsche Rescue   Answered my own question. Looked at PET and learne...   Aug 1 2005, 09:25 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   Eric, What is a "V-caliper" you refer to for the r...   Aug 1 2005, 10:14 PM
ArtechnikA   ...   Aug 2 2005, 08:05 AM
Eric_Shea   Danke Rich! http://www.9...   Aug 2 2005, 09:53 AM
Root_Werks   This is a good thread full of info. I like the re...   Aug 2 2005, 09:59 AM
Porsche Rescue   Eric, if late '72 (transition) were "one nippl...   Aug 2 2005, 10:09 AM
Eric_Shea  
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Eric_Shea   Jim, That's what I was thinking too. There...   Aug 2 2005, 01:49 PM
ArtechnikA   ...   Aug 2 2005, 01:56 PM
Eric_Shea   So the 914 is a "medium" motor car... we knew that...   Aug 2 2005, 02:28 PM
Eddie914   What are the dimensions of Carrera rotors? Are th...   Aug 2 2005, 05:25 PM
johnmhudson111     Aug 2 2005, 07:11 PM
ArtechnikA   it is the application of the service brake that ke...   Aug 2 2005, 07:52 PM
Eric_Shea  
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johnmhudson111     Aug 4 2005, 05:13 PM
ein 6er   here is a link to the mechanism.   Aug 4 2005, 06:36 PM
Eric_Shea   Those look "fairly" easy to mfg. Any of you machi...   Aug 7 2005, 02:45 PM


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