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> Four vs Six, comparison questions
johnmhudson111
post Aug 16 2005, 09:02 AM
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I am sure ths has been discussed before but I couldn't find anything using the search. So, has there been a comparison done between a 911 six and big four, like Jake Raby's engines? Looking at:
1. Overall cost of engine (plus consideration of the cost of the conversion to a six from a four)
2. power hp/tq
3. engine life
4. other issues?
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Brian Mifsud
post Aug 17 2005, 04:03 PM
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John,

Did you mention if you wanted the car for street only, or autocrossing/racing??

Best bang for buck I'm sure is the already converted (but not raced) six. You won't be able to avoid maintenance costs, but at least you aren't paying a premium on initial investment (and won't be physically and mentally worn out from building the car)

I got 3/4 the way into buying all the "right" parts for a six conversion:

True Low mileage '83 3.0 Six (60K miles verified, great head studs, great compression)
Rich Johnson Bulkhead Mount
911 Front Suspension
911 Master Cylinder and Brakes
True 914/6 rear hubs
etc.

Even with a couple of "lucky" finds and great deals it became really clear what further money needed to be spent
(Already $4500 in the hole at this point, but realize without "luck" I'd be more like $6K down the road).

That was without the fender flares and nice wheels, rollcage, and nice paintjob as future "wishlists".

Also, frequent rebuilds of the 901 are to expected with a 3.0 or bigger.

If figured I needed to spend another $5-7 grand for the car to be up to what I really wanted. At that point, I'm up to the price of a new modest sports sedan with way better reliability and fuel economy. I decided to bail. Good news is that Porsche resale prices on parts is great..


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johnmhudson111   Four vs Six   Aug 16 2005, 09:02 AM
phantom914   This is a recurring topic. When you did the search...   Aug 16 2005, 09:06 AM
john rogers   I went through this a while back and here is what ...   Aug 16 2005, 09:16 AM
grantsfo   I have done extensive research on this subject. T...   Aug 16 2005, 09:39 AM
johnmhudson111   <...   Aug 16 2005, 10:37 AM
Jake Raby   I won't even go there this time!!...   Aug 16 2005, 10:43 AM
goose2     Aug 16 2005, 10:47 AM
SirAndy     Aug 16 2005, 10:47 AM
SirAndy   ...   Aug 16 2005, 11:07 AM
maxwelj   I guess one man's noise is another man's m...   Aug 16 2005, 11:15 AM
Ferg   <...   Aug 16 2005, 11:17 AM
john rogers   As a strict cost comparison, the next time you are...   Aug 16 2005, 11:19 AM
redshift     Aug 16 2005, 11:19 AM
URY914   I believe you need to look the entire scope of the...   Aug 16 2005, 11:27 AM
andys   A couple of years after buying a new '73 2.0L,...   Aug 16 2005, 11:28 AM
lapuwali   ...   Aug 16 2005, 11:43 AM
redshift   James, again, you aren't even in the same ball...   Aug 16 2005, 11:45 AM
tat2dphreak   ok here's my take... if you have unlimited r...   Aug 16 2005, 11:51 AM
redshift   This is a big problem here, because when anyone sa...   Aug 16 2005, 11:56 AM
aircooledboy   You guys are all thinkin too small. Let's see,...   Aug 16 2005, 11:57 AM
redshift   hahahaha You need a $12k transaxle. M   Aug 16 2005, 11:58 AM
aircooledboy   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/htm...   Aug 16 2005, 11:58 AM
redshift   What works better in that one; tap water, or Perri...   Aug 16 2005, 12:00 PM
JmuRiz   I've got a solution, just buy a 911 to go alon...   Aug 16 2005, 12:01 PM
aircooledboy   ...   Aug 16 2005, 12:14 PM
Jake Raby   FYI- The cost between a 180HP/4 and a 140 HP/4 isn...   Aug 16 2005, 12:15 PM
Matt Monson   ...   Aug 16 2005, 12:19 PM
Matt Monson   Oh, and one thing to add. I don't know what sh...   Aug 16 2005, 12:20 PM
johnmhudson111   ...   Aug 16 2005, 12:53 PM
redshift   Yeah, you need an oil tank, all the fittings, a co...   Aug 16 2005, 12:59 PM
tat2dphreak   ...   Aug 16 2005, 01:04 PM
Mueller  
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johnmhudson111   ...   Aug 16 2005, 01:21 PM
Jake Raby  
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iamchappy   You can always pump up the hp in the 6 when you fe...   Aug 16 2005, 01:32 PM
tat2dphreak   <...   Aug 16 2005, 01:32 PM
Marv's3.6six   Four vs Six vs Other comparison: Four = Volkswage...   Aug 16 2005, 01:37 PM
johnmhudson111     Aug 16 2005, 02:43 PM
trekkor   I've yet to hear how much it really costs to b...   Aug 16 2005, 02:45 PM
tat2dphreak   <...   Aug 16 2005, 02:50 PM
Matt Monson   I am kind of with KT on this one, but with a sligh...   Aug 16 2005, 02:52 PM
Jake Raby   As for freshening up: My engine customers automati...   Aug 16 2005, 02:57 PM
johnmhudson111   ...   Aug 16 2005, 03:14 PM
redshift   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/ht...   Aug 16 2005, 05:49 PM
MattR   ...   Aug 16 2005, 06:03 PM
!   Buy one already converted....$$$ wa...   Aug 16 2005, 06:43 PM
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Jake Raby   You better be glad that I'm in a good mood ton...   Aug 16 2005, 07:14 PM
trekkor  
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Jake Raby   You'd be speechless if you saw the proposals t...   Aug 16 2005, 07:24 PM
!   New built/rebuilt motors are VERY expensive. Th...   Aug 16 2005, 07:26 PM
Maltese Falcon   is my fan spose'd to be mounted facing the fir...   Aug 16 2005, 07:34 PM
tat2dphreak   <...   Aug 17 2005, 02:35 PM
JmuRiz   I'm with Anthony, get a mild 130-170HP type IV...   Aug 17 2005, 02:38 PM
goose2   Yup...the ultimate solution for all is to have a f...   Aug 17 2005, 02:48 PM
Brent     Aug 17 2005, 03:04 PM
Brian Mifsud   John, Did you mention if you wanted the car for s...   Aug 17 2005, 04:03 PM
anthony   The cost in time is huge.   Aug 17 2005, 04:04 PM
ArtechnikA     Aug 17 2005, 04:11 PM
Crazyhippy     Aug 17 2005, 04:15 PM
Eric_Shea  
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trekkor   Ask Dan Root about the ease and expense of a quick...   Aug 17 2005, 04:48 PM
Oliver   hey Iam new but what about a turbine ? <...   Aug 17 2005, 05:09 PM
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