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> Broke the throttle on the six, need CSOB ideas
djm914-6
post Nov 8 2005, 04:33 PM
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It's been a long time comming I suppose. The lever that the pedal pushes on has been tilting to the inboard until the throttle rod rests againts the floor board. Sometimes I'd attempt to bend it back, but most of the time I'd just del with the squeeking.

Well, there's no more squeek because the throttle lever of the pedal assemble broke off. I got the car home by bending he manual throttle lever just enough to catch the throttle cable end. I drove it by pulling back on the lever.

Now, I need some ideas. I know that the six lever isn't so common. What's the changes of having this one welded up and reattached to the pin that goes into the pedal assembly?

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post Nov 8 2005, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE (fiid @ Nov 8 2005, 09:58 PM)
Much is a deceptive word. It's possible to get 70,000psi strength braze joints and 130,000psi is possible with stainless. I don't know what the numbers look like for welds though.

Brazing is also much lower temp than full on welding, so it's easier not to induce warping or material defects.

Brazing is crap at butt joints however. It's much better when there is an overlap.

You can also braze stuff reasonably easily with a little MAPP/Oxygen setup from Home Despot.

Personally - though - I much prefer the MIG.

bronze is weaker than steel.
Bronze is brazing, or soldering..it is using a liquified metal alloy to glue to pieces together.

now, if the piece in question has beenbroken off ina butt joint way..or torn off, there is no reason that welding with steel mig wire, or tig...would do any harm to this piece.

I have always been a CSOB,,,if the part is an original brazed 914/6 part...get it brazed...

If the part broke(not at a brazed joint, because it would never break....brazing is so tough) then fix it with welding.

I discount brazing because of the following facts.

You cannot get paint to stick to brazing...it will always lift off, so will bondo..ask any body guy about brazing and paint....

If brazing was better than welding structurally, bridges, cars, buildings, and a wide variety of other steel connections would be done with brazing because its easier, cheaper and would produce less heat and less warping etc...

but its not the right method to fix a broken piece of steel that is under stress...

Rich

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djm914-6   Broke the throttle on the six   Nov 8 2005, 04:33 PM
ClayPerrine   Contact Rich Johnson. He had 5 factory throttle be...   Nov 8 2005, 04:37 PM
r_towle   post a pic...never seen one...if it can be welded,...   Nov 8 2005, 07:32 PM
jkeyzer   Are the pedal assemblies for the sixes really diff...   Nov 8 2005, 07:40 PM
Aaron Cox   the pivot plate that the gas pedal connects to is ...   Nov 8 2005, 07:45 PM
djm914-6   Hey Rich, What's the chances that a weld would...   Nov 8 2005, 08:05 PM
Eric_Shea   The crank isn't different except for the handt...   Nov 8 2005, 08:08 PM
r_towle   <...   Nov 8 2005, 08:12 PM
lapuwali   ...   Nov 8 2005, 08:35 PM
r_towle   brazing is also much weaker than welding. Rich   Nov 8 2005, 08:43 PM
fiid   Much is a deceptive word. It's possible to ge...   Nov 8 2005, 08:58 PM
Eric_Shea   Fixed... http://www.914world.com/...   Nov 8 2005, 09:00 PM
lapuwali     Nov 8 2005, 09:14 PM
lapuwali   ...   Nov 8 2005, 09:15 PM
Eric_Shea     Nov 8 2005, 09:20 PM
Eric_Shea   Your 914 is brazed (and they painted right over it...   Nov 8 2005, 10:09 PM
r_towle   ...   Nov 8 2005, 10:28 PM
fiid   <...   Nov 8 2005, 11:08 PM
djm914-6   Still no pics of the carnage as I haven't take...   Nov 9 2005, 07:32 AM
Eric_Shea   Hey, did you guys know that brazing is connecting ...   Nov 9 2005, 03:45 PM
r_towle   ...   Nov 9 2005, 04:49 PM
Eric_Shea   Sorry... http://www.914world.com/b...   Nov 9 2005, 05:05 PM
lapuwali   Hey, I'm the Mr. Smartypants in this thread......   Nov 9 2005, 05:08 PM
fiid   I confess to also attempting to bust a smartypants...   Nov 9 2005, 06:34 PM
r_towle   i likea good argument...or discussion...none taken...   Nov 9 2005, 06:50 PM


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