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> Alloy calipers for the 914..., Coming soon to a store near you!
Rick_Eberle
post Nov 17 2005, 01:17 AM
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I just got off the phone with a guy here in Australia who is preparing a run of alloy calipers for the 914. Apparrently these are a direct replacement, including handbrake.

And for the xenophobes among you, yes they will be available right there in the USA.
So will these rims. (I just ordered a set of the rims today). It seems that the Formula Vee crowd here like 914 parts.

All this is still a few months away. (Except for my rims... they'll be here by Tuesday!)


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lapuwali
post Nov 18 2005, 12:45 PM
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Several reasons to not go four-piston. One, you can buy alloy four-piston calipers today from Wilwood, et al. They just need adapters. Two, a two-piston caliper would be cheaper to make. Three, if he's providing these to F-Vee racers, there may be rules about how many pistons are allowed.

The main reason to go four (or six or eight) pistons is that you want the same piston area spread over a "longer" arc of the rotor. The advantage here is you're gripping more of the rotor at the outer edge, which improves the leverage of the grip at the axle. With a different rotor, you can also remove the center section of the rotor (that the thinner but longer pads don't grip anymore) and replace it a lighter "hat", perhaps made out of aluminum. A glance at the front brakes on most recent sporting motorcycles is an excellent illustration of this.

However, if you're not going to change to a new style of rotor (which comes with its own costs, and may violate racing rules), then multiple pistons don't buy you much. You'll get some increase in leverage, but you can also increase braking power with slightly bigger pistons, too, for less money. You're already cutting weight significantly by using alloy instead of cast iron for the caliper body. It's also probable that these new calipers could use stock size pads, which simplifies long-term maintenance and reduces costs.

So, it's the usual cost v. improvement tradeoff. Alloy calipers with 40mm (up from 38mm stock) pistons that bolt on and use stock pads would be a very nice addition to the market, giving you better braking force with less weight and no hassles. Do the same for $100 per caliper and you'd have people lining up round the block for them. Do it for the rear with a stock handbrake setup and you're causing a riot. If they're also split and spacers can be easily made for them, and if the rears also have bigger pistons, then I can envision a kit available for under $1000 that gives vented rotors at all four corners with a working handbrake, less weight, an adjustable prop valve that's actually useful, all with four-lug wheels, alongside another bolt-on kit for under $500 that provides better brake balance and less weight (all unsprung), using stock rotors.
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Rick_Eberle   Alloy calipers for the 914...   Nov 17 2005, 01:17 AM
markb   Will the rims come in 4 bolt?   Nov 17 2005, 01:18 AM
Rick_Eberle   4 bolt (4x130), 15x6, 36mm ET. Oh, and they doing ...   Nov 17 2005, 01:24 AM
Mueller   will the calipers have any added features such as ...   Nov 17 2005, 01:30 AM
Rick_Eberle     Nov 17 2005, 01:38 AM
McMark   $150 per wheel is not bad. ht...   Nov 17 2005, 02:14 AM
jmargush   What is the address for the site? the one in the p...   Nov 17 2005, 05:20 AM
solex   Beetle Racing   Nov 17 2005, 08:19 AM
Headrage     Nov 17 2005, 09:46 AM
lapuwali   There's a selector box on the right that sets ...   Nov 17 2005, 10:19 AM
Rick_Eberle   ...   Nov 17 2005, 02:13 PM
Aaron Cox   wicked!!! post pics on tuesday of you...   Nov 17 2005, 02:27 PM
Mueller   ...   Nov 17 2005, 02:30 PM
Mueller   <...   Nov 17 2005, 02:31 PM
bmunday   Who's the disti in California? I like the cali...   Nov 17 2005, 02:33 PM
Dave-O   Damn....why not in 7"?   Nov 17 2005, 02:41 PM
crash914   the distributer goes by the name of ...   Nov 17 2005, 03:33 PM
tat2dphreak   those rims are bitchin!! http://www.9...   Nov 18 2005, 06:31 AM
bmunday   Jerry, If you were screwed by these guys let us k...   Nov 18 2005, 06:45 AM
tat2dphreak   ...   Nov 18 2005, 11:05 AM
Brando   <...   Nov 18 2005, 12:29 PM
Mark Henry     Nov 18 2005, 01:45 PM
bmunday     Nov 18 2005, 02:11 PM
Mueller  
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crash914   my bad..... I will go slap myself with a wet nood...   Nov 18 2005, 03:46 PM
Mark Henry   http://www.914world.com/bbs2...   Nov 18 2005, 03:53 PM
davep   These are supposed to be ATE calipers are they not...   Nov 18 2005, 04:23 PM
lapuwali     Nov 18 2005, 04:57 PM
Rick_Eberle   From what he told me, they are going to be a direc...   Nov 18 2005, 08:08 PM
davep   Stock front /4 is 42mm, stock front /6 is 48mm. St...   Nov 18 2005, 09:09 PM
Eric_Shea   After reading through the thread. I'm excited ...   Nov 18 2005, 10:10 PM
r_towle   any updates on this?   Jan 6 2006, 12:50 PM
Brett W   If this company is going to copy the stock caliper...   Jan 6 2006, 01:34 PM
greg.treadway   I will be carrying these calipers. They will be he...   Jan 9 2006, 08:38 AM
tat2dphreak   <...   Feb 7 2006, 01:38 PM
tat2dphreak   I love the wheels... when will more info be availa...   Feb 7 2006, 01:43 PM
brokenmoped  
  Mar 13 2006, 06:26 PM
Brando   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/ht...   Mar 14 2006, 12:16 AM
greg.treadway   The tooling is complete. I have not figured out wh...   Mar 14 2006, 10:20 AM
rdauenhauer   Greg on just the rears in the /6 pad sizing Im bet...   Mar 14 2006, 10:22 AM
Eric_Shea  
  Mar 14 2006, 10:43 AM
Aaron Cox   yeah! what erica shea said! ^^   Mar 14 2006, 12:26 PM
brokenmoped  
  Mar 15 2006, 01:07 AM
Andyrew   I would go for a set of rear 6's... as long as...   Mar 15 2006, 01:59 AM
brokenmoped   Will these ever be available?!   Jul 6 2006, 04:25 PM
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