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> T fitting instead of prop. valve, what is the rational?
DanT
post Dec 1 2005, 08:18 PM
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Ok, I know this has probably been discussed in many threads before. But, what is the reasoning for replacement of the Prop. valve with the "T" fitting for the rear brakes. Does the prop. valve cause more line pressure to the fronts or the rears when it is operating properly? I want to understand the engineering aspects of this modification.
I will be running "M" calipers with mythical billet hubs in the front and stock 914-4s in the rear.
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post Dec 1 2005, 08:33 PM
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Here's my spin on the deal. I'm running larger diameter tires with a wider contact patch. The added unsprung rotating mass puts undue stress on the stock brakes. It has nothing to do with a larger motor, more HP or any other HP mod. In my opinion it's mass rotating vs applied force. I converted to BMW 2002 4 piston calipers in the front on the stock solid rotors. I added a 19mm 911 master cylinder to make up for the added fluid volume and reduce pedal travel. I eliminated the "P" valve to increase the pressure to the stock rear brakes. I like the feel. I've never felt as if I had too much rear clamping force. With less mass and a smaller contact patch a brake up grade isn't nessesary. IMHO

one observation, at Willow I had visable brake dust on all 4 wheels for the first time in my life that I can recall. I guess they were working (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/aktion035.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif)
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Dan (Almaden Valley)   T fitting instead of prop. valve   Dec 1 2005, 08:18 PM
McMark   The prop valve limits the amount of hydraulic pres...   Dec 1 2005, 08:33 PM
rick 918-S   Here's my spin on the deal. I'm running la...   Dec 1 2005, 08:33 PM
Headrage   Jeez!!! http://www.914world.com/bbs2...   Dec 1 2005, 10:59 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   I am sure the reasoning behind the T is that putti...   Dec 1 2005, 10:59 PM
rick 918-S     Dec 1 2005, 11:21 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   ...   Dec 1 2005, 11:26 PM
Brando   Also keep in mind that with much better gripping t...   Dec 1 2005, 11:35 PM
McMark   You mean, this graph Dave? http://...   Dec 1 2005, 11:38 PM
McMark     Dec 1 2005, 11:42 PM
trekkor   Good thread. http://www.914worl...   Dec 2 2005, 12:15 AM
J P Stein     Dec 2 2005, 07:15 AM
andys     Dec 2 2005, 10:52 AM
Dave_Darling   <...   Dec 2 2005, 10:55 AM
J P Stein     Dec 2 2005, 11:22 AM
andys   ...   Dec 2 2005, 11:39 AM
kdfoust   <...   Dec 2 2005, 12:19 PM
J P Stein     Dec 2 2005, 01:39 PM
nick mironov   This is where I got my T-fitting ($8): http:...   Dec 2 2005, 02:04 PM
horizontally-opposed   Eric... http://www.914world.co...   Dec 2 2005, 02:06 PM
andys     Dec 2 2005, 03:14 PM
Eric_Shea   First Post... http://www.914world....   Dec 2 2005, 05:20 PM
J P Stein   Brakes......a decent buy: http://forums.pelicanpar...   Dec 3 2005, 10:46 AM
horizontally-opposed   ...   Dec 3 2005, 01:19 PM
SirAndy     Dec 3 2005, 02:12 PM
nine14cats   Hi Dan, I'll give you what Doris and I were r...   Dec 3 2005, 03:20 PM
J P Stein   Basicaly, what Bill, Andys & I are talking about i...   Dec 3 2005, 04:46 PM


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