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> How much power vs. displacement, 1.7-2.0 4s
Gearhead1432
post Jan 3 2006, 08:34 PM
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How much power have people been able to get out of a stock displacment motor? Torqure and Hp?

I can recall reading about people getting 120hp from 1.7L type one motors years ago. That is on pump fuel.

With the technology available today I would think that volumetric efficiency could be pushed further than before while maintaining reliability on the street.

So is 130-160hp out of a 2.0 totaly (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif)

I know Porsche did it years ago with a couple diferant 2.0L motors like the 901/911 or 587 (street motors not track). However, they were radicaly diferant compared to the simple type 4. ....

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Jake Raby
post Jan 4 2006, 07:06 PM
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The difference is the RPM range needed to make the power.. A 135HP 2 liter HAS to turn and make power to 7,000 RPM to make the numbers- The 2270 only needs 5,000 RPM to make 135 HP.

Tell me which one is the easiest to drive with the best torque and usable power.....

Tell me which one will last the longest.... (remember that RPM = wear)

HP is worthless unless you intend to operate at 5,252 RPM + ALL THE TIME, thats because Tq and HP cross at 5,252 RPM.

It's all about torque, once you realize HP sucks and torque rules, you'll start enjoyiong the car a lot more...
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Gearhead1432   How much power vs. displacement   Jan 3 2006, 08:34 PM
Dave_Darling   You could probably get about 300 HP out of a 2.0 d...   Jan 3 2006, 09:26 PM
alpha434     Jan 3 2006, 09:53 PM
Jake Raby   Man, it never ceases to amaze me how hard you guys...   Jan 4 2006, 01:08 AM
Brett W   To hell with pump gas, drop the compression to 6.5...   Jan 4 2006, 07:53 AM
dmenche914   Sure wish us folk in the San Fransisco bay area co...   Jan 4 2006, 05:01 PM
Jake Raby   we have 93 octane at every pump, sometimes 94 and ...   Jan 4 2006, 05:22 PM
Gearhead1432   ...   Jan 4 2006, 06:12 PM
lapuwali   The key here is specific power: hp/liter. In a tw...   Jan 4 2006, 06:41 PM
Gearhead1432   Hmm, maybe I'll have to re-evaluate this. I th...   Jan 4 2006, 07:50 PM
Jake Raby   It's a 4 cam with twin ignition and a full hem...   Jan 4 2006, 08:06 PM
Gearhead1432   That's a great looking speedster. ...   Jan 4 2006, 09:18 PM
Jake Raby   Nope, the peak is dictated by the overall engine c...   Jan 4 2006, 09:26 PM
Brew   Ok, I get ya now. Thanks!   Jan 4 2006, 09:31 PM
lapuwali   Jake, hp (sae) = torque (ft/lbs) x rpm / 5252. Th...   Jan 4 2006, 09:36 PM
Jake Raby   Exactly.... Thats really apparent on engines tha...   Jan 4 2006, 09:46 PM
Gearhead1432   Great info Jake. I hadn't realy looked at it t...   Jan 4 2006, 09:54 PM
grantsfo   The only cost effective way to get reliable HP is ...   Jan 4 2006, 10:04 PM
Jake Raby   Narrow minds all think the same.   Jan 4 2006, 10:09 PM
grantsfo   ...   Jan 4 2006, 10:15 PM
lapuwali   ...   Jan 4 2006, 10:21 PM
Jake Raby   <...   Jan 4 2006, 10:35 PM
Bleyseng   Isn't a 2270 kit in that ballpark? Me, I am ...   Jan 4 2006, 11:01 PM
TeamAxisRacing   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Jan 4 2006, 11:14 PM
Gearhead1432   The stock Djet 1.7 makes 80hp DIN... ...   Jan 4 2006, 11:23 PM
Bleyseng   Yes, thats what we are putting together, a stock "...   Jan 4 2006, 11:25 PM


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