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| Elliot_Cannon |
 Aug 28 2003, 11:03 AM
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Senior Member  Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,922 Joined: 26-March 03 From: Orange County Ca Member No.: 480 Region Association: None  |
Hi,
Finally get the 2.2 installed in my 73. I needed to get the 44idf carbs adjusted and and valve train was making a lot of noise. I took it back to the engine builder yesterday to have these adjustments made. I get a call from them this morning saying that they have to take the engine back apart because the cam had been worn down. Something about bad lifters! This on an egnine that cost me $7000.00 and had LESS THAN 20 MILES ON IT. These folks are supposed to be THE VW engine builders on the west coast. So now I have to go back up to their shop, drive the car home, remove the engine and bring it back up to them. Sorry to rant here but my wife is tired of hearing about the car. Elliot FAT PERFORMANCE (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fighting19.gif) |
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| Elliot_Cannon |
Aug 28 2003, 04:27 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,922 Joined: 26-March 03 From: Orange County Ca Member No.: 480 Region Association: None |
Hi,
I just got the car home and will start pulling the engine out. I spoke with Ron at Fat Performance and he told me he spoke with other engine builders who have experienced the same problems. WTF is going on with these lifters and cams? Are they made in some 3rd world country or what? Does anybody do quality control anymore? I told them if they wanted to upgrade the lifters I would gladly pay for them. He said he used the best. If those are the best I don't know if I will ever have a decent running engine in this car!! Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any nondestructive testing for these parts. Apparently you have to destroy the part to find out if it is any good. Twenty miles on a brand new engine and the cam and lifters are shot. Un-freakin-believable. At first I was pissed off at the people who built the engine but the folks at Fat Performance are at the mercy of their vendors like everyone else I guess. Anyway they are standing by their work and I'll try to have the engine back to them tomorrow. More later, Elliot |
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Elliot Cannon valve lifters Aug 28 2003, 11:03 AM
rhodyguy [QUOTE]. why is all of that your responsibility? t... Aug 28 2003, 11:13 AM tryan must be all that rtv on the pushrod tubes.
sorry... Aug 28 2003, 11:14 AM cgnj Well, That sucks.
There was a tread on STF about ... Aug 28 2003, 11:18 AM rhodyguy fly up and sit on my deck if you want to. SERENITY... Aug 28 2003, 11:18 AM redshift Why is this happening so frequently?
M Aug 28 2003, 11:19 AM Elliot Cannon Hi,
I can drive the car OK. The cam isn... Aug 28 2003, 11:53 AM Elliot Cannon ... Aug 28 2003, 12:00 PM Brad Roberts Hum... 2 engines in 2 weeks.
I just received a ne... Aug 28 2003, 03:56 PM redshift This makes 4 Type-IV engines (Web) I can count fro... Aug 28 2003, 04:05 PM swood Now I'm getting nervous. I have a sweet (so I... Aug 28 2003, 04:46 PM Racer Chris I thought the last batch of Johnson lifters was th... Aug 28 2003, 09:34 PM redshift I need to have questions about my new_new engine..... Aug 28 2003, 10:06 PM campbellcj Very interesting that this problem has been occurr... Aug 28 2003, 10:41 PM Elliot Cannon Hi,
Do I understand correctly that it i... Aug 28 2003, 11:08 PM seanery Elliott,
These are the mechanical lifters sold by... Aug 28 2003, 11:26 PM redshift Mine went @ 4800 miles, but the builder says bad g... Aug 29 2003, 12:07 AM Brad Roberts Elliot..it is the lifters. If the hardness of the ... Aug 29 2003, 01:48 AM redshift I liked it before, when there were enough cars her... Aug 29 2003, 03:21 AM Elliot Cannon Hi,
Sorry to cause any sleepless nights ov... Aug 29 2003, 01:19 PM tryan take the cam and lifters and check the surface har... Aug 29 2003, 01:33 PM rdauenhauer Just a thought but would those nifty hi-$ Cer... Aug 29 2003, 01:35 PM StratPlayer Arrrgh,,, I just had a cam and new lifters install... Aug 29 2003, 01:50 PM redshift How much was that, if you don't mind?
M Aug 29 2003, 06:43 PM redshift The strat is safe, ... Aug 30 2003, 12:55 AM Brad Roberts Run it. If it pukes... we start a class action wit... Aug 30 2003, 12:59 AM redshift We need a chat applet.
The first engine was broke... Aug 30 2003, 01:05 AM Brad Roberts I do have a chat applet (www.all914.com)
Can you ... Aug 30 2003, 01:08 AM redshift Can I prove it? No.
Do I believe it had run 500 ... Aug 30 2003, 01:21 AM
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Built by the best, for the best money work can b... Jul 23 2013, 09:45 PM rdauenhauer Not to hijack this thread but this sort of reminde... Aug 30 2003, 01:24 AM redshift I have a 40 piece Vietnamese socket set, about 10 ... Aug 30 2003, 01:36 AM cgnj Hi,
Could be lifter bores? Or is it a chicken bef... Aug 30 2003, 09:10 AM redshift Jake Raby Thereare MANY contributing factors to flat cams an... Aug 31 2003, 04:42 PM StratPlayer Anything special have to be done to use ceramic li... Jan 7 2004, 06:48 PM cnavarro They have raised pushrod cup heights, when compare... Jan 7 2004, 07:36 PM Aaron Cox oh crap. i may have the dead cam issue. I noticed ... Jan 7 2004, 08:23 PM Mark Henry redshift Aaron dood.. if the cam goes flat, you know it. Yo... Jan 8 2004, 07:52 AM Jake Raby I'll be making a BIG post on the STF either la... Jan 8 2004, 08:13 AM rhodyguy is the lifter issue a problem across the range of ... Jan 8 2004, 08:18 AM Brett W "oh crap. i may have the dead cam issue. I noticed... Jan 8 2004, 08:38 AM Jake Raby Brett is correct. Rockers can wear ne get noisy an... Jan 8 2004, 10:53 AM James Adams Jake said somewhere that he purposely floated the ... Jan 8 2004, 12:30 PM Jake Raby I made this post yesterday on Pelican....
I have ... Jan 8 2004, 02:19 PM jkeyzer Does anyone have a good reference on how to set up... Jan 8 2004, 02:32 PM Mueller Jake,
switch to decaf my man, LOL
seriously, t... Jan 8 2004, 02:41 PM Jake Raby Yeah..... floating valves isn't a good thing a... Jan 8 2004, 03:22 PM Korijo I just re-read the entire thread... Again. I am n... Jan 8 2004, 03:33 PM Mueller "pure evil"???
about shear stupidity??? yea, I... Jan 8 2004, 03:39 PM Korijo What is the advantage of the oversized lifters com... Jan 8 2004, 04:05 PM jkeyzer You get the lifter bores bored out for the oversiz... Jan 8 2004, 05:30 PM cnavarro Layaway. That's pretty funny, considering payp... Jan 8 2004, 05:47 PM Air_Cooled_Nut Korijo I'm in for a "Direct" replacement group buy th... Jan 8 2004, 07:32 PM rhodyguy is buying a set up from cb performance an option. ... Jan 8 2004, 09:00 PM Jake Raby That combo needs some serious refiguring in my opi... Jan 9 2004, 08:54 AM Korijo I thought I was lacking in the cam department :un... Jan 10 2004, 01:05 AM Mark Henry Korijo QUOTE
theo Sorry to dig up a decade old thread, but does anyo... Jul 23 2013, 01:52 PM monkeyboy General concensus these days was that a lot of it ... Jul 23 2013, 02:05 PM Elliot Cannon I found some ceramic lifters. ($500) Works ... Jul 23 2013, 03:45 PM 7TPorsh Saw that Hemmings Motor News is making special oil... Jul 23 2013, 04:07 PM sean_v8_914 lots of high zddp oils coming out because of this.... Jul 24 2013, 09:23 AM Jake Raby
Yep...
This...
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/upl... Jul 24 2013, 07:03 PM worn So I will be ok as long as I use joe Gibbs oil? T... Jul 24 2013, 08:11 PM Jake Raby
So I will be ok as long as I use joe Gibbs oil? ... Jul 24 2013, 08:55 PM |
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