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> Who hates NASCAR on Speed?, Maybe we can make a difference
Brett W
post Jan 21 2006, 10:09 PM
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post Jan 23 2006, 07:09 PM
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WOW,
Can't resist but should!
On another post you'll see that I tested my G prod 914 at Willow Springs motorsports park this weekend. It's a road course for those of you that don't live out west. What holds the track record there? A NASCAR stock car. Recently beat Michael Andretti's record in an Indy Car. Outdated technology Huh? Who are you kidding and what planet are you from?

Let's see; Jack Roush, Roger Penske, Joe Gibbs, A.J. Foyt and Parnelli Jones have all recently fielded NASCAR teams. Those names sound familiar to anybody on this site?

Some of the most famous names to me in NASCAR history; Mario Andretti, Parnelli Jones, Mark Donahue, Dan Gurney, A.J. Foyt, Al Unser (both Sr. and Jr.), Ron Fellows, Brian Simo, Robby Gordon (I can't stand him, but that's just personal, used to race with him and know him as a person) Ron Hornaday. Any of those names familiar to you road racers?

Some of the current drivers alma maters; MIT, University of Wisconsin, UCLA, USC. Not bad for a dumb bunch of hicks.

The Ford GT40 and Cobra (the real one not the mustang pretenders) are essentially NASCAR technology. Anybody want to argue with their results? As I recall they beat the Porsches, Mercedes, Ferraris and Alfas.

Recently several F1 racers tested NASCAR stock cars at the same time Jeff Gordon tested an F1 car. They weren't offered contracts, not fast enough. But Adrian Fernandez is drving a NASCAR BUSCH car and not doing very well along with several other current and former CART and IRL drivers at selected races

By the way, Paul Newman and Newman/Haas did sponsor and technically still do sponsor several NASCAR teams and Paul and Steve McQueen have both driven stock cars at different times. NASCAR's drivers are not only every bit as talented as open wheel and road racing drivers they ARE open wheel and road racing drivers. The most recent 24 hours of Daytona was a perfect example. A very large number of NASCAR drivers participated and won. Why did SCCA change their rules regarding fuel cells and fire systems? Dale Earnhardt Jrs. crash at Daytona in a Corvette road racing car in the 24 hour race.

Driven a NASCAR stock car and the Porsche. If I had the money I'd be in the stock car. The Porsche is alot cheaper to run but nowhere near as much fun.

Why is NASCAR so popular? The drivers are real people, or at least were. You can walk up and touch the cars and occasionally sit in them. Even drive them for less than the cost of a set of tires for my Porsche. They race in or near your home town and they are probably from there. (I grew up with Ron Hornaday, Sr and Jr and raced against Robby Gordon and Rick Mears). Looking at where most of us are from on this site you grew up with somebody from your hometown in a NASCAR stock car as well.

I was in Hilton Head for a conference last year. Was out to dinner and sat next to Felix Sabates (Owns several NASCAR teams as well as a HUGE yacht). Ended up talking to he and his family for most of the evening, just plain nice folks. Try doing that with Bernie Ecclestone or any of the F1 owners some time, not a chance in hell.

F1 is just a bunch of pretty boy, poser, actor wannabe, former lorry drivers who think they have talent because they drive for teams with more money than sense. And as far as technology goes, despite every type of "management known to man; fuel, engine, traction, suspension and brake; the F1 teams still can't build an engine or car that will last for 500 miles, that's some really great technology there. (yes, that is sarcasm).

Even though I run a G prod Porsche there is nothing that makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck like being passed by a BUSCH north car and a CRAFTSMAN truck who were being chased (Yes chased) by a pair of Archer brothers Vipers. Those push rod V8's haul the mail and they sound like it.

So, All hail NASCAR, the new king on the block. For those of you who hate the sport, like all motor racing, they will only be on top a little while before Americans get bored and a new type of racing takes over.

Please God, not rally or F1, the most boring racing ever invented the way it is run these days. Has there actually been a pass made on track in F1 in the last couple of years?

But when NASCAR is replaced I bet the France family and ISCA will own a big chunk of whatever the new kid on the block may be.
Just my 4 cents worth. (It was a long rant so must be more than 2).
Randy
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Brett W   Who hates NASCAR on Speed?   Jan 21 2006, 10:09 PM
messix   watch out you live in nascar heartland   Jan 21 2006, 10:36 PM
ChicagoChris   Brett I don't mean to be the bearer of bad ne...   Jan 21 2006, 10:43 PM
alpha434   I signed. Does that make me cool now?   Jan 21 2006, 10:52 PM
boxstr   Speed is NASCAR and NASCAR is speed. CCLINGOODLUCK   Jan 21 2006, 10:53 PM
gregrobbins   I heard from a good source in SCCA that NASCAR was...   Jan 21 2006, 11:27 PM
alpha434   Who wants to watch nascar anyway? Five hundred lap...   Jan 21 2006, 11:34 PM
SLITS   ...   Jan 21 2006, 11:41 PM
Porcharu   I signed this a long time ago - just more dang rou...   Jan 22 2006, 12:09 AM
jimtab   I don't begrudge fans of oval track racing/sto...   Jan 22 2006, 12:15 AM
sj914   It's the left turns isn't it.   Jan 22 2006, 02:34 AM
messix   two races are on road tracks. try dover or bristol...   Jan 22 2006, 03:31 AM
dinomium     Jan 22 2006, 03:32 AM
messix   go to bed   Jan 22 2006, 03:34 AM
dinomium   I am not dun with my beer yet They come six to a c...   Jan 22 2006, 04:05 AM
Andyrew   I like the parts that nascar produces... Sway bar ...   Jan 22 2006, 04:12 AM
spare time toys   Im number 5338. I love reading the coments some f...   Jan 22 2006, 07:57 AM
blitZ   I'll sign it, but it's all about money and...   Jan 22 2006, 09:27 AM
Porcharu     Jan 22 2006, 11:22 AM
SLITS     Jan 22 2006, 11:24 AM
seanery   If having NASCAR on Speed pays the bills so I can ...   Jan 22 2006, 11:34 AM
Lou W     Jan 22 2006, 11:38 AM
Porcharu     Jan 22 2006, 11:39 AM
goose2   I'm ok with a little NASCAR...it's a good ...   Jan 22 2006, 11:51 AM
messix   <...   Jan 22 2006, 12:25 PM
carr914   The HOT Bobsled is made by Geoff Bodine, therefore...   Jan 22 2006, 12:55 PM
Brett W   I don't have a problem with NASCAR in General....   Jan 22 2006, 01:03 PM
Brando   Instead of petitioning to remove NASCAR, get a ton...   Jan 22 2006, 02:26 PM
lotus_65   it's the monotony that gets me about nascar. a...   Jan 22 2006, 02:36 PM
jgara962   Signed. Speed sucks. When they aren't showin...   Jan 22 2006, 03:00 PM
wbergtho   I UNDERSTAND NASCAR COMPLETELY. YOU SIT ON YOUR CO...   Jan 22 2006, 06:10 PM
Lou W  
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Vacca Rabite   Okay... First off. Wbergtho, dude, sit back, have...   Jan 22 2006, 06:50 PM
jimtab   ...   Jan 22 2006, 06:56 PM
Rand     Jan 22 2006, 07:10 PM
black73   ...   Jan 22 2006, 07:53 PM
Brett W   Guys, calm down. NASCAR is not just a dumb hillbi...   Jan 22 2006, 09:24 PM
messix   haters http://www.914world.c...   Jan 22 2006, 09:43 PM
wbergtho   ALTHOUGH I REALLY DON'T SEE WHAT MAKES NASCAR ...   Jan 22 2006, 10:27 PM
KaptKaos   I signed the petition though I doubt it will do an...   Jan 22 2006, 10:27 PM
wbergtho   KAPTKAOS...WELL SAID...I AGREE! 914 PEOPLE LIK...   Jan 22 2006, 10:34 PM
KaptKaos   ...   Jan 22 2006, 10:39 PM
black73   wbergtho, Please do us all a favor and remove the...   Jan 22 2006, 10:49 PM
messix   i grew up on indy and f1. the cars and the technol...   Jan 22 2006, 11:02 PM
wbergtho   I LIKE MY CAP LOCK KEY RIGHT WHERE IT IS THANKYOU....   Jan 23 2006, 12:14 AM
wbergtho   BY THE WAY SARDONIC CAN BE LOOSELY CONSIDERED THE ...   Jan 23 2006, 12:19 AM
Lou W   http://www.914world.com/bbs2...   Jan 23 2006, 12:24 AM
KaptKaos   ...   Jan 23 2006, 12:28 AM
Crazyhippy   F1 has the best drivers in the world. That is hard...   Jan 23 2006, 12:39 AM
messix   some thing to consider. when was the last time in ...   Jan 23 2006, 12:47 AM
Porcharu   Quick - turn on Speed a rare non NASCAR event is o...   Jan 23 2006, 02:04 AM
alpha434   Ok. So I was gone, but now I'm back. Paintba...   Jan 23 2006, 03:29 AM
indydad   Thanks for starting this thread. I will forward th...   Jan 23 2006, 05:53 AM
Joe Ricard   Well there is alot of technology coming out of Rac...   Jan 23 2006, 07:20 AM
ws91420   NASCAR vs F1 F1 teams can throw alot of money...   Jan 23 2006, 08:16 AM
Joe Ricard   Well I don't know about non technical or uncom...   Jan 23 2006, 08:47 AM
indydad   NASCAR "technology"? What, hi-tech lug nuts? Light...   Jan 23 2006, 09:02 AM
ws91420   When I said no complicated fuel managment I meant ...   Jan 23 2006, 09:09 AM
Joe Ricard   <...   Jan 23 2006, 09:33 AM
black73   It looks like NASCAR topics get people as fired up...   Jan 23 2006, 10:03 AM
ws91420   It's just that the drivers own the licensing r...   Jan 23 2006, 10:10 AM
indydad   You are right, NASCAR doesn't make money direc...   Jan 23 2006, 10:39 AM
rdauenhauer  
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ClayPerrine   NASCAR is a reality TV program. It is marketing a...   Jan 23 2006, 11:01 AM
Racing916   Porsches LMP2 car owned and operted by Richard Pen...   Jan 23 2006, 11:10 AM
street legal go-kart   Thats Roger. After spending my youth in roundy rou...   Jan 23 2006, 01:32 PM
wbergtho   I've posted mostly negaitive comments regardin...   Jan 23 2006, 05:50 PM
KaptKaos   ...   Jan 23 2006, 06:42 PM
kart54   WOW, Can't resist but should! On ano...   Jan 23 2006, 07:09 PM
ws91420   Other NASCAR drivers from different backgrounds B...   Jan 23 2006, 07:52 PM
Brett W   I went through this argument tonight with an F1 fa...   Jan 23 2006, 10:09 PM
jbegood2000   Your comment on the income made me wonder....is th...   Jan 23 2006, 10:20 PM
wbergtho   Hey Joe, Thanks for the nice compliments regardin...   Jan 23 2006, 10:25 PM
KaptKaos   ...   Jan 23 2006, 11:04 PM
Porcharu   What happened to why we hate so much NASCAR on Spe...   Jan 23 2006, 11:11 PM
messix   <...   Jan 23 2006, 11:35 PM
Brett W   If I live in Huntsville AL and make 55K a year, I ...   Jan 23 2006, 11:48 PM
Mugs914   <...   Jan 24 2006, 12:15 AM
Brett W  
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Porcharu   <...   Jan 24 2006, 01:50 AM
Brett W   Holy *&^#*&$%$@*&@^#&@*&$*&@#^...   Jan 24 2006, 11:02 AM
WRX914   I see both sides of the coin on this one... the o...   Jan 24 2006, 12:50 PM
Porcharu   I have fond memories of Trans Am racing back in th...   Jan 24 2006, 01:07 PM
street legal go-kart   Take a look at both Randy/Kart54 and Brett W.s pr...   Jan 28 2006, 12:18 PM
Racing916   hey street legal go cart, I agree with you, but c...   Jan 28 2006, 12:33 PM
MattR   <...   Jan 28 2006, 12:50 PM
Porcharu     Jan 28 2006, 01:44 PM
messix   oh you are so misinformed. the head work the the n...   Jan 28 2006, 03:29 PM
Porcharu   Arg!!!! Look at Speed right now - ...   Jan 29 2006, 12:48 AM
Porcharu     Jan 29 2006, 12:54 AM
alpha434   Wow. We've been at this for along time. Um yea...   Jan 29 2006, 01:06 AM
ChicagoChris   -Messix - I don't get it. You seem to be imp...   Jan 29 2006, 07:51 AM
black73  
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alpha434   Ok fine. But if you search the rules, its not al...   Jan 29 2006, 11:00 AM
street legal go-kart   We all have benefited from any racing program by t...   Jan 29 2006, 11:53 AM
Porcharu   ...   Jan 29 2006, 12:33 PM
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