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| yarin |
Jan 28 2006, 01:36 AM
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'14-X'in FOOL ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 988 Joined: 13-May 03 From: Guttenberg, NJ Member No.: 693 Region Association: North East States |
Tonight I have completed building the main board for my MS II V.3.0 system. Thanks to those that have helped out. Once i'm all finished I will definitely post a complete "How To MegaSquirt a 914" website with pics and step by step. So far i'm still at the desk level. I've got 2.0 injection parts on the way.
I'll be using the following: stock injectors GM air temp sensor stock fuel pump summit racing manifold referenced fuel pressure regulator stock injectors (i think 2.0s are on the way) stock plenum / runners stock CHT MS Relay Board Innovative WB02 High Current ignition driver Stock dizzy with pertronix (hall sensor) Stock Bosch Blue Coil PWM Low impedence injector driver (no resistors) Stock Cold start Valve (plan so far) Stock throttle body with some junkyard TPS Here is a pic of my board, took me a few hours a night every night this week. I took my time, double checked everything. So far so good! I don't expect to have the system in the car for at least another month. I'm converting from carbs so I want to install steel fuel lines and clean some stuff up. I'll be sure to post progress in the forums. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) Attached image(s)
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| agrump |
Feb 1 2006, 08:55 AM
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Yarin,
I am using a pertronix. I did not use the Ed capacitor, I just changed the resister. I know what you mean about changing something and then having to change it back. I was pleased that I did not have to change the R57 back once I started controlling timing. I did get the cover. I got it a long time ago when I was running MSI/V2. Godd idea about attaching the cover. Be warned that if you do decide to mount it low it is tough to get the wires into the terminals especially if two or more need to be connected to the same one. I am using the stock fast idle device. I stole one of the connections for the IAC to use for my MAP sensor which I have mounted in the relay box. SInce I started with MSI/V2 I built a resister box for the injectors and am still using it so no PWM. For warm up enrichment I am using the stock head sensor. I manipulated the table so that it reads about 100 degrees lower the the actual temperature. It works ok but still cuts off to soon. There is a limit to what you can do by changing the tables, I think I got it about as good as it is going to get with the stock sensor. I am thinking about mounting a sensor next the the stock thermostat and see if I can get better readings there. With MSII you don't have to mess around with loading thermal tables there is a menu item under tools in megatune that will handle it for you. I am currently using: 5280 ohms -40 degrees f 2000 ohms -6 f 200 ohms 130 f Again it is not perfect. Interestingly MSII limits the lowest temp you can enter to -40, I was using -48 with MS1 for the first entry. I found a tps that fit within the plastic cover of the stock throttle switch. I wired it into the stock connector, it looks factory. I will try to dig up where I got it, it was online somewhere. Attached is a screen print of my warmup settings. I used VEXME software to tune my tables with a LC1 WB. I am playing around with the PID algorithm currently, the simple WB algorithm seems to oscillate to much. I am with Dave in not trusting the stock connector although I have not had a problem YET. The minisquirt has a much nicer one but I can’t imagine changing it now, what a pain that would be! Attached image(s)
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yarin Megasquirt Progress Jan 28 2006, 01:36 AM
yarin my converted workshop... temporary of course Jan 28 2006, 01:39 AM
yarin shot of my soldering skills at the beginning. Jan 28 2006, 01:40 AM
dinomium Yes, the injetors are the pretty green ones! B... Jan 28 2006, 01:41 AM
Tom Perso Looks familar... http://www.... Jan 28 2006, 06:51 AM
Mueller I highly recommend testing the injectors "before" ... Jan 28 2006, 10:08 AM
yarin I was planning on sending my injectors out to RC E... Jan 28 2006, 10:27 AM
crash914 Yarin,
You will like the version 3 system...
I ... Jan 29 2006, 10:12 AM
Tom Perso ... Jan 29 2006, 11:30 AM
yarin I ordered my stuff from http://www.diyautotune.com... Jan 29 2006, 02:31 PM
crash914 msII drop in chip is available...you can buy on li... Jan 30 2006, 06:35 AM
alpha434 Bump.
Megasquirt? Jan 30 2006, 11:21 PM
Mueller ... Jan 31 2006, 12:23 AM
alpha434 ok. So... Outside of price. What kicks it's as... Jan 31 2006, 12:28 AM
Mueller ... Jan 31 2006, 12:58 AM
alpha434 Ahhhhhh. I see. So nothing. Hmmmm....
Replace my ... Jan 31 2006, 01:04 AM
Mueller ... Jan 31 2006, 01:13 AM
alpha434 Alright. The next objective for my top secret proj... Jan 31 2006, 01:19 AM
agrump Yarin,
I have a similar setup to what you are pla... Jan 31 2006, 07:36 AM
yarin Hey Dean,
Someone on MSEFI forums used a 1.3K pul... Jan 31 2006, 09:28 PM
DNHunt One piece of advice. Plan your cable from the ECU ... Feb 1 2006, 08:21 AM
yarin Dave,
I will be sure to strain relief both sides ... Feb 1 2006, 08:33 AM
DNHunt As a guideline I have a 180 degree turn a the rela... Feb 1 2006, 08:42 AM
bd1308 BNC connectors!!!?!!?!?... Feb 1 2006, 08:45 AM
yarin I bought the 12' cable from DIYautotune.
The... Feb 1 2006, 08:48 AM
DNHunt Also on the injectors and fuel pressure. I believe... Feb 1 2006, 08:57 AM
bd1308 If i do this on my 1.7, is there someone that coul... Feb 1 2006, 08:59 AM
sgomes LEMO http://www.914world.co... Feb 1 2006, 09:02 AM
yarin Check these out, FCI D-sub Mixed Power DW series
... Feb 1 2006, 09:09 AM
DNHunt Britt
There is plenty of support online. Meuller... Feb 1 2006, 09:13 AM
yarin Feb 1 2006, 10:56 AM
yarin Feb 1 2006, 11:02 AM
lapuwali IMHO, Dave's experience with solder cup DB con... Feb 1 2006, 12:26 PM
yarin James,
Thanks for you feedback. I will run the in... Feb 1 2006, 02:51 PM
jhadler The stock D-jet regulator is pretty good. You say ... Feb 1 2006, 03:06 PM
yarin Josh, Yes rising rate. Or in our case when the ma... Feb 1 2006, 03:22 PM
lapuwali You can modify the stock D-Jet FPR to reference it... Feb 1 2006, 03:25 PM
lapuwali Feb 1 2006, 03:41 PM
DNHunt I understand the rising rate FPR but, I haven... Feb 1 2006, 04:48 PM
lapuwali Feb 1 2006, 05:13 PM
agrump Feb 1 2006, 06:56 PM
yarin Do a search for closed loop idle on MSEFI.com foru... Feb 1 2006, 07:01 PM
lapuwali Case in point: this guy is devoting a third of his... Feb 1 2006, 07:09 PM
Jeff Nelson I think there might be some confusion as to what a... Feb 1 2006, 07:15 PM
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