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> 914 -engine sizes- fit/wont fit???, Technical HELLLlpPPP
Boldylocks
post Sep 10 2003, 11:59 AM
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First, I'm the owner of a 73 914 with a 1.7 liter engine that has bent/broken intake valves. I'm not a mechanic, but the cost to repair this part seems to be as much, if not more, than finding a running engine and putting it into the car.
With that said:

Can I 'drop' any 914 engine into the car??? 1.8 -2.0??

Is the mechanic correct, will it cost me nearly the same amount to simply find (FAR FROM SIMPLE) a running engine and have it put in the car???

Can I 'drop' any of the larger engines into the car without any problems???

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Anyone with any ideas of the causes for a 'big bore' engine to RUN HOT . there is no thermostat connected to the engine and after about an hour of running it starts heading into the red zone.

-for direct contact: Rfranklin@price-entities.com -during the day (pacific time), Riccif@cts.com -at night.

I would really really appreciate anyones help/response. I'm always greatful to this board and point eveyone I know in its direction. My current 914 was purchase after many hours of discussion on this board and it is a gem. The ENGINE was damaged due to mandatory driving on the face of the MOON in order to get to work for nearly 3 months (streets on my way to work -were pothole infested- caused serious damage to exhaust/engine -though again, according to what I have learned I simply have an 'intake valve -bent/broken' issue).
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post Sep 10 2003, 03:12 PM
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Brass Tacks Time for sure: here is a quote from the guy who has the big bore 103mm engine: "the motor does not have a thermostat. However, the flap on the 3/4 cylinder side is wired in the open position, so air is hitting the oil cooler. There is no flap on the 1/2 side. The oil seems to be mostly from the 1/2 side. Push rod tube seals, maybe, or could be poor seat of cylinder to head or case since there are no gaskets. I just don't know."

He also says "the ingine is a 1.8 liter case that has been machined to accomodate a 103mm big bore kit(103mm cylinders and pistons). 2.0 liter heads also machined. Heads were recently rebuilt and #3 valve replaced. The bad news is that it runs very hot and leaks a lot of oil! It is also loud and has poor gas milage. Comes with Weber carb setup. Carbs are made in Spain, model 40 IDF 70 M7. Carbs were recently rebuilt. Slightly larger than stock Elgin cam (266 duration 108 lobe ceenters, standard valve clearence)."

SO, here is the story, I'm very intersested in this engine because, so far, its the only 'running' engine I have come accross. My biggest problem is the problems that could lead to this heat issue. Running lean doesnt seem to be the biggest of problems. As I mention, I'm only taking the car for a stroll to work in the mornings and evenings home -less than 20 miles a day - which gives me time to work on 'lean' -BUT..
If there are deeper more bizzare reasons for a HOT engine - then I've got to keep looking.

NOTE: Pelican's BBS -while a nice place to visit -had a listing for an engine that was posted in October 1999 - and it was still being contacted which meant it was 'high' on the list of current discussions. - I like the Bird, but give me 914club or rennlist anytime.

-so, again, to all 914s out there - am I getting into trouble with a car that already RUNS hot -or are these usually issues that can be repaired ??
the engine I am dropping has a legitamate PROB -it will not idle, it has a MAJOR intake problem that -as discussed above- will result in 'head' removal and other issues that mechanics love to charge small boat prices for. I'm not looking to finance my Mechy's boat.
I would prefer to give a 914 upgrader some cash for a 'lessor' yet fun all the same, 4-cyl.

Keep it coming, I'm downstream LEARNING.
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Boldylocks   914 -engine sizes- fit/wont fit???   Sep 10 2003, 11:59 AM
tat2dphreak   yes any type 4 engine is a "drop in" see here: Ty...   Sep 10 2003, 12:08 PM
Lawrence   Welcome to the BBS! 1. Yes, you can fit any ...   Sep 10 2003, 12:09 PM
tat2dphreak   Damn, I didn't even snap on that... there are ...   Sep 10 2003, 12:13 PM
Boldylocks   As I stated before, this BBS is WAYYYy to full of ...   Sep 10 2003, 12:25 PM
tat2dphreak   a 6, I am told isn't hard to do... but there i...   Sep 10 2003, 12:44 PM
Boldylocks   Pics of the new and old machine will be posted sho...   Sep 10 2003, 01:02 PM
tat2dphreak   if the 1.7 just needs head work, the work isn...   Sep 10 2003, 01:32 PM
Boldylocks   I dont have to worry about smog -my car is 73, smo...   Sep 10 2003, 02:11 PM
tat2dphreak   bad for a couple of reasons... usually the cylinde...   Sep 10 2003, 02:24 PM
Boldylocks   Brass Tacks Time for sure: here is a quote from th...   Sep 10 2003, 03:12 PM
tat2dphreak   Dude, I would look for a better prospect... if it...   Sep 10 2003, 03:21 PM
peridotian   That "hot" motor also has major oil leaks.   Sep 10 2003, 03:35 PM
Mike D.   I have a great running 1.7 that was just removed f...   Sep 10 2003, 03:37 PM
tat2dphreak   :o see! told you Ca. is the place to find eng...   Sep 10 2003, 04:01 PM
Boldylocks   I think I have to agree with you. I'm going to...   Sep 10 2003, 04:22 PM
tat2dphreak   I understand the draw... go here to see what TIVs ...   Sep 10 2003, 04:26 PM
Boldylocks   Newest information on the HOT engine: Again, I...   Sep 10 2003, 04:36 PM
tat2dphreak   UHH.... if that head AIN't WARPED, I'll ea...   Sep 10 2003, 04:42 PM
Boldylocks   ROFL - GREAT comments I'm laughing right now, ...   Sep 10 2003, 04:59 PM
Boldylocks   http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/Home_Page.htm ...   Sep 10 2003, 05:03 PM
tat2dphreak   600!!!! FUCK NO! I've seen...   Sep 10 2003, 05:15 PM
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tat2dphreak   there's been several, I watch close, but most ...   Sep 10 2003, 06:33 PM
Racer Chris   Unless you are planning to have a knowledgeable 91...   Sep 10 2003, 07:00 PM
Boldylocks   Heyyy 914 gang, should there ever be a competition...   Sep 11 2003, 12:37 AM
Brad Roberts   Anybody read this guy's post above mine ?? Tha...   Sep 11 2003, 03:46 AM
tat2dphreak   2L for sell: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showt...   Sep 11 2003, 09:05 AM


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