Show me your front oil cooler..., ...running through the fog light grills Options

[GTeener]

I'm considering adding oil coolers behind my front fog light grills. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

Who else has done this?
What's it look like?
Are you satisfied with the results?

[McMark]

Overhead mockup pictured below.

Aaron, 90 degree AN fittings are very tall and might interfere with the chassis. But acquiring male AN fittings and welding and extension pipe the makes a tighter 90 degree bend is possible.

Gwen, there's a lot more to figure out. Also, this is experimental. I like the idea, it makes sense to me. But it is unproven. Make sure you're comfortable with that.

2 Coolers @ $180 = $360 (shipping included in this price, not in Aaron's)
AN Lines (rubber) = $150
Thermostat = $100
AN Fittings = $200

That's $810 just in parts. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

[GTeener]

Overhead mockup pictured below.

Aaron, 90 degree AN fittings are very tall and might interfere with the chassis. But acquiring male AN fittings and welding and extension pipe the makes a tighter 90 degree bend is possible.

Gwen, there's a lot more to figure out. Also, this is experimental. I like the idea, it makes sense to me. But it is unproven. Make sure you're comfortable with that.

2 Coolers @ $180 = $360 (shipping included in this price, not in Aaron's)
AN Lines (rubber) = $150
Thermostat = $100
AN Fittings = $200

That's $810 just in parts. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

It's a proven solution with bigger coolers in the same places. Is the experimental part laying the cooler down instead of mounting it upright? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

What will you do it for? Once you perfect the design, others will benefit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[McMark]

It's a proven solution with bigger coolers in the same places. Is the experimental part laying the cooler down instead of mounting it upright? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

What will you do it for? Once you perfect the design, others will benefit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

The cooler isn't laid down. It's upright and air flows straight through it. But the coolers are quite small. I am cautious with any new idea. I think it sounds good enough to try it, that's saying something. But there is a small possibility that at the end of the day it won't give enough cooling. Any time you're breaking new ground, you're taking a risk. Something similar has been done and has worked, but that only proves the basis of the idea since we are talking about drastically changing the implementation. There is very little similar about the race car fog light coolers, and what we're talking about. Those have different motors, different coolers, different installations, and all of those things can completely change the effectiveness of the idea. If you're not comfortable with breaking new ground and accepting that risk, there are tons of proven effective methods that will suit your needs.

At my rates it would probably $500-$700 in labor fees.

[GTeener]

It's a proven solution with bigger coolers in the same places. Is the experimental part laying the cooler down instead of mounting it upright? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

What will you do it for? Once you perfect the design, others will benefit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

The cooler isn't laid down. It's upright and air flows straight through it. But the coolers are quite small. I am cautious with any new idea. I think it sounds good enough to try it, that's saying something. But there is a small possibility that at the end of the day it won't give enough cooling. Any time you're breaking new ground, you're taking a risk. Something similar has been done and has worked, but that only proves the basis of the idea since we are talking about drastically changing the implementation. There is very little similar about the race car fog light coolers, and what we're talking about. Those have different motors, different coolers, different installations, and all of those things can completely change the effectiveness of the idea. If you're not comfortable with breaking new ground and accepting that risk, there are tons of proven effective methods that will suit your needs.

At my rates it would probably $500-$700 in labor fees.

Right now I have no extra cooling. So my continuum of options (not in proper order) are...

The small front coolers (adequate) will presumable provide some quality cooling, better than an under the car with fan solution (worst) and allow my standardly mounted horizontal full-spare tire to fit where it is and my headlights to work as normal. But it is unproven with small coolers and working headlights.

Trekkors front cooler design works (very good) and preserves some trunk but possibly not enough for the full-spare (space saver is likely) but has a funny rear mounting location.

The more traditional GT-style front cooler (optimal) works the best but I will lose the full-spare tire (space saver fits) and much of the front trunk space and may in fact be too effective in cooling.

Since the small fog light coolers are unproven it is impossible to say that it is an excercise in futility...It was first suggested conceptually by Tony Heyer of Heyer Performance...

[lapuwali]

Right now I have no extra cooling. So my continuum of options (not in proper order) are...

The small front coolers (adequate) will presumable provide some quality cooling, better than an under the car with fan solution (worst) and allow my standardly mounted horizontal full-spare tire to fit where it is and my headlights to work as normal. But it is unproven with small coolers and working headlights.

Trekkors front cooler design works (very good) and preserves some trunk but possibly not enough for the full-spare (space saver is likely) but has a funny rear mounting location.

The more traditional GT-style front cooler (optimal) works the best but I will lose the full-spare tire (space saver fits) and much of the front trunk space and may in fact be too effective in cooling.

Since the small fog light coolers are unproven it is impossible to say that it is an excercise in futility...It was first suggested conceptually by Tony Heyer of Heyer Performance...

Actually, the under the rear trunk mounted cooler IS still an option, no matter what Aaron says. You have no external cooler now, and your oil temps are, MOST OF THE TIME, just fine. You only need extra cooling capacity under duress. Aaron has absolutely no data on how much cooling a 2.2S really needs under track conditions at Thunderhill in August, so he's talking out his ass when he says the under trunk option isn't good enough. He has no way of knowing, he's just guessing.

Rich Johnson lives in Texas. It's a LOT hotter in Texas in the summer than it is in the Bay Area at any time of year. Rich Johnson has a warmed over 3.0, which generates more power (and thus heat) than a 2.2S does. The under trunk option works for him. It MIGHT work for you (there's no telling without trying it). It won't touch your front trunk at all. It's substantially easier to fabricate than the under the headlight approach. It's PROVEN to be adequate on a more powerful engine in hotter ambient temps.