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Hammy
post Jul 30 2006, 07:09 PM
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In the process of bleeding the brakes.

Recently replaced some brake hard lines and rubber lines in the rear. They all appear to be holding up and secure.

What I am confused about is:
After bleeding all 4 calipers twice, the pedal is still not hard until it is pumped a few times.
Is this normal? Do I just need to bleed more until i get an immediate firm pedal? Or does it mean something else?

I'm wondering if it's one of the lines I replaced in the rear, yet none are leaking.

Do I need to bleed the Proportioning valve? If so, how do I do that?

Also, when bleeding, I have the tube on the bleeders and I crack them open. How much am I supposed to crack them open? Wide open? Or slightly? When they're open pretty far, air gets sucked in from the outside of the tube. Also, sometimes I get some brake fluid dripping and not going into the tube, and sometimes a lot leaks outside the tube. Is this normal for brake bleeding? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jul 30 2006, 11:29 PM
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When I recently put my car back together (I had all the brake lines off/out), I had a similar problem to what you describe and I had just switched to a 19mm master cylinder to boot.

I kept the stock proportioning valve (which got drained when it was out of the car).

I pressure bled my brakes twice before I obtained a reasonable stiff pedal. I pressure bled them and also ran the pedal down to the floor several times while bleeding the rear brakes. (This made the biggest difference and the biggest improvement).

Each time I bled the brakes, I would run a quart through the calipers (mostly in the rears).

If I had a do-over button, I would have replaced the proportioning valve with a "T" fitting and been done with it. (I have 911 SC calipers/rotors on all 4 corners).



It is my firm belief that the stock proportioning valve (pressure limiter) somehow plays a role in the difficulty in getting a hard brake pedal after it drains of fluid. Once a firm pedal is achieved, it seems like it works fine, but until then, it is a PITA.


just my $0.02
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Hammy   trouble with brake pressure   Jul 30 2006, 07:09 PM
Hammy   shameless :bump:   Jul 30 2006, 10:23 PM
wertygrog   Im not an expert but I've done it and I'll...   Jul 30 2006, 10:42 PM
Hammy   Thanks for the reply and encouragement Brent. I h...   Jul 30 2006, 11:13 PM
JOHNMAN   When I recently put my car back together (I had al...   Jul 30 2006, 11:29 PM


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