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> MPS testing and where get rebuilt, Slight loss of vacuum after 5 min ? bad MPS
jsf322
post Aug 18 2006, 02:18 PM
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I just checked my MPS because my car is running rich, burns a lot of fuel, and idles very poorly especially when warm. The CHT was bad and I replaced that. IT improved the stalling I had before replacing it, but the car is still rich and idles very unpredictably. I put 15mm Hg on the MPS and it lost about 1/2 mm in the first minute and 4-5mm within 5 minutes. Would that be considered a bad MPS. If so does anyone have experinece with rebuilt units from AA or Preformance Products. AA is about $40 cheaper. Thanks for any input.
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post Aug 19 2006, 12:35 AM
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okay here is some more information. The valves were adjusted about 500 miles ago as well as the timing checked and the dwell set. I tested the temp sensor at the throttle body and it gave the correct numbers. The CHT I replaced because the wire going into it was having issues and when it moved slightly the car would stall. Now it does not stall. When I first start the car it dies and will immediately restart and stay running. Sometimes if I try to move it right away it will pop back a little if I do not give it a lot of gas. after a minute or two of running there is no problem with that. There are times when it will idle rock steady, but if I push the pedal down at all when it is idling well it will immediately start to go up and down on idel from almost 0 to about 1000 rpm. When I pull up to a stop the car drops idle for a moment to almost a stall and catches and is okay but idle wanders. I can smell it running rich and it is only getting about 21-23 mpg. I will check the ECU and MPS to see if the numbers match but from what I know of the car they are original to the car. Th engine only has 44K original miles and not much was done to it over the years. I have replaced all of the vacuum lines and fuel lines except the ones in the tunnel because they were amazingly good. The fuel pressure is about 30-31 lb. The car has plenty of power when driving and no hesitation at any point in the full RPM range after idle.
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post Aug 19 2006, 08:02 AM
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QUOTE(jsf322 @ Aug 18 2006, 11:35 PM) *

okay here is some more information. The valves were adjusted about 500 miles ago as well as the timing checked and the dwell set. I tested the temp sensor at the throttle body and it gave the correct numbers. The CHT I replaced because the wire going into it was having issues and when it moved slightly the car would stall. Now it does not stall. When I first start the car it dies and will immediately restart and stay running. Sometimes if I try to move it right away it will pop back a little if I do not give it a lot of gas. after a minute or two of running there is no problem with that. There are times when it will idle rock steady, but if I push the pedal down at all when it is idling well it will immediately start to go up and down on idel from almost 0 to about 1000 rpm. When I pull up to a stop the car drops idle for a moment to almost a stall and catches and is okay but idle wanders. I can smell it running rich and it is only getting about 21-23 mpg. I will check the ECU and MPS to see if the numbers match but from what I know of the car they are original to the car. Th engine only has 44K original miles and not much was done to it over the years. I have replaced all of the vacuum lines and fuel lines except the ones in the tunnel because they were amazingly good. The fuel pressure is about 30-31 lb. The car has plenty of power when driving and no hesitation at any point in the full RPM range after idle.


1. change out the points to a Crane optical points replacement. Electronic ignition is a big help.
2. Set the idle mix when the engine is hot, after 15 mins of driving, AAR valve is closed.
Use a CO meter if you can get one, go to a shop etc.....or
pull over after the car is hot and reset the idle ECU screw to where the engine idles good and reset the idle speed to 950. Do it a couple of times. The idle knob on the ECU should be close to the factory notch.

It sounds like the idle mix is rich a bit. Make damn sure the vacuum hoses are setup correctly.
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jsf322   MPS testing and where get rebuilt   Aug 18 2006, 02:18 PM
Dr Evil   You can send it to Bleyseng here on the board. He ...   Aug 18 2006, 02:36 PM
bondo   I wouldn't consider that unacceptable, but tha...   Aug 18 2006, 02:46 PM
Demick   That is a very slow leak. A leak that slow will n...   Aug 18 2006, 03:07 PM
jsf322   I thought that that may not be a fast enough leak,...   Aug 18 2006, 03:40 PM
Bleyseng   ok, did it run fine before? Do the numbers for th...   Aug 18 2006, 06:18 PM
BMXerror   Being a recent Bleyseng customer that is having th...   Aug 18 2006, 06:32 PM
Bleyseng   You should have about 15hg at idle with a steady n...   Aug 18 2006, 08:21 PM
jsf322   okay here is some more information. The valves we...   Aug 19 2006, 12:35 AM
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