Elgin Cams, for a 2.0L 4 cylinder Options

[DanT]

anyone built a 2.0L with D-jet using one of these cams?

Like the results?

Hated it?

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[Jake Raby]

Brad I have used his cams in street engines and race engines... I still use ONE of his grinds with very good results.

Elgin has been desiging/grinding cams and running his engine dyno longer than Jake has been alive

I absolutely resent this remark, who cares what he dopes at night, who cares who his neighbor is?

I supersede many individuals that have been in business longer than I have been alive, it happens daily. Their experience is what hurts them most of the time because it impedes their desire to explore. A good example of this is in Brad's post... How many years ago were all those things being developed and raced??? If you knew how many engines I get in this shop that are fucked up and totally msconfigured from guys that have "Been doing this for 30 years" you'd shit a brick!

The reason I don't use more Elgin cams is the fact that he won't easily work with me to create the things that I want to try. When you call Elgin and try to do something outside the box with these engines in short order you'll be thinking like you were in 1974 again- I have tried it on quite a few occasions.

Our styles of engine design with the Type 4 are not on the same level- Thats all... I don't work with anyone that is stuck in the 70s, its just plain counterproductive.

(he does build engines FYI) just doesnt do 4cyl's any more.

...Exactly. Thats why his effectiveness will never equal what it did the day he stopped building them. Its impossible to fully understand how a cam grind works without direct experience with it in a vast amount of differing combinations.

Bontempi will tell you right now that he has had NO cam failures with Elgin cams and Elgin reground lifters

That just means that he hasn't used enough. Thats just like people that have never scattered an engine, they haven't built enough... Failures happen, when you use enough of a component you will get a bad one.

Reasons like this are why my cam grinding is moving 100% in house as soon as I can find a deal on a CNC grinder.