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> First powder coating, results so/so, anybody use the cheapo HF unit ?
jsteele22
post Dec 31 2006, 03:41 PM
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Last night I finally got around to using the "Chicago Electric" powdercoating setup I bought at HF a couple of months ago. It was on sale, like $60, and others have reported satisfactory results with it. I had some problems, though, and wondered if anyone has any ideas to help.

The problem was that the powder delivery was very erratic. Whenever I pulled the trigger or jiggled the gun the tiniest bit, a huge blast of powder would come out. Huge. I'd say, 1/16" or so of powder would splat out onto the work. After the huge splurt, the powder would come out in a reasonable manner, and go right where it was supposed to. Gradually, though, the fog would get thinner and thinner, and I'd have to shake the gun a tiny bit. This produced another huge splurt, then another interval of acceptable flow. To get by, I had a scrap metal shield that I kept in front of the work until the splurt was over, then moved out of the way during the intervals of acceptable operation. It works, but it's tedious and messy.


The instructions say to either use 10-15 psi regulated at the compressor, or to use the regulator screw on the gun itself. I'm using the shop at my work, and the compressor is off in a different room that I don't have a key for. So I bought a cheapo HF regulator that I screwed onto the gun, and before loading it with power, tried to test the operation. With the trigger pulled, I could - barely - regulate the pressure, but as soon as I released the trigger, the pressure would climb to line pressure. The POS Chinese regulator wasn't regulating. Then, based on the instructions, I removed the regulator and tried regulating the air with the screw built into the gun. No way of knowing the pressure, but from the sound I could hear the rate of flow and trim it to something reasonable. In any case, the air flow is smooth and steady.

Any tips or suggestions ? The obvious thing to try is buy a non-crap regualtor. But has anyone had luck using the metering screw in the gun itself ? My hunch right now is that maybe I had the air flow too slow. How rapidly should the powder coat the work ?

TIA, Jeff

p.s. I'm off skiing tomorrow; won't be back until Tues.
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scotty b
post Dec 31 2006, 04:26 PM
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Jeff if you didn't do it the first thing to do is shake the powder really well before loading the gun. Powder settles down when it sits and will pack into a semi- solid chunk. Moisture is obviously an enemy as is proper air flow. I'm not sure how the cheapo units werk but on the proffesional units the pickup tube supplies air flow to the box of powder to keep it loose and free flowing. If the H.F. unit has such a feature check it as well. Hope this helps.
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QUOTE(scotty b @ Dec 31 2006, 03:26 PM) *

Jeff if you didn't do it the first thing to do is shake the powder really well before loading the gun. Powder settles down when it sits and will pack into a semi- solid chunk. Moisture is obviously an enemy as is proper air flow. I'm not sure how the cheapo units werk but on the proffesional units the pickup tube supplies air flow to the box of powder to keep it loose and free flowing. If the H.F. unit has such a feature check it as well. Hope this helps.



Shake the powder - good idea ! In fact, the powder came in a plastic bottle that screws directly onto the gun, so it never even got transferred.

I haven't really poked around much, so I can't say for sure how the gun works. The bottle screws onto it and there's a J-shaped tube that pokes into the bottle. In operation the bottle is upside down, the mouth of the J points downwards. I don't know if the air flows through the bottle or just down the barrel. Anyway, thanks for the tip. I'll try shaking the powder up for my next attempt.

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jsteele22   First powder coating, results so/so   Dec 31 2006, 03:41 PM
scotty b   Jeff if you didn't do it the first thing to do...   Dec 31 2006, 04:26 PM
jsteele22   B)-->
QUOTE(scotty b @ D...   Dec 31 2006, 04:37 PM
Lawrence   Scott is right about shaking the powder. The powd...   Dec 31 2006, 05:55 PM
jsteele22   Scott is right about shaking the powder. The pow...   Dec 31 2006, 06:11 PM
seanery   :ttiwwp:   Dec 31 2006, 06:16 PM
jsteele22   :ttiwwp: Pics of the finished job, or pics of ...   Dec 31 2006, 07:34 PM
John   More than likely you didn't get a full cure on...   Jan 1 2007, 01:09 AM
scotty b   To cure parts like that pan, I would shoot for ...   Jan 1 2007, 04:35 PM
PRS914-6   Make sure you have an air regulator on the gun. I...   Jan 1 2007, 01:22 AM
Gint   :agree: If your propblem is powder delivery than y...   Jan 1 2007, 12:43 PM
736conver   Moisture can really cause some erratic problems. ...   Jan 1 2007, 01:07 PM
Gint   :agree: in theory with a caveat. RTFM, or read t...   Jan 1 2007, 07:29 PM
John   Sorry to burst your bubble, but you can definate...   Jan 1 2007, 09:06 PM
pankopp   is the powder universal to all guns. for example ...   Jan 1 2007, 09:16 PM
John   Powder can typically be used in any application eq...   Jan 1 2007, 09:28 PM
jsteele22   Thanks for all the info. The glossy area I mentio...   Jan 2 2007, 03:06 PM
scotty b   John part of my job is powder coating, both commer...   Jan 2 2007, 05:47 PM
John   Yes we sell Batch Ovens as well as automated ovens...   Jan 2 2007, 10:25 PM


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