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> Starter Question, High Torque or regular
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post Mar 12 2007, 11:27 AM
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I think my starter died this weekend. Everything was fine last weekend when I went for a nice drive. Alternator charging good, new battery, no shorts or bad grounds etc..

Turn key and get the solionid click. I have checked the battery (12.35V) cleaned ground connection and terminals, cleaned connections on starter, cleaned connection to transmission ground strap...every thing looks good.

Also I have bypassed the '74 seatbelt relay (a while back) so thats no longer in the starter circuit.

Other than the ignition switch (which I am buying a spare to have on hand) is there anything else I've overlooked??

I'm thinking it's the starter and I'm about to buy one. Do you reccomend the rebuilt Bosch or the new high torque ones (lifetime warrenty)? Is there anything I need to be aware of with the high torque unit (i.e. will it bolt right in etc..)?

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post Mar 13 2007, 11:19 AM
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It sounds to me like the teeth on the starter motor are worn.

I think that they should have a sharp leading edge on them to allow them to mesh with the teeth on the flywheel.

If a tooth on the starter hits a tooth on the flywheel, the Bendix can not fully extend and the starter motor won't (isn't supposed to) spin. The sharp edges on the starter teeth get worn when you try to start an already-running car.

I believe that a new/rebuilt starter is in your future. I would replace it with either a 914 unit or a 911 unit (the 911 units are more powerful).

You should be able to pull your starter out pretty quickly. 2 bolts and a couple wires....

When you get the starter off, you can look in the hole and look at the teeth on the flywheel for damage/wear.

Good luck to you.


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pin31   Starter Question   Mar 12 2007, 11:27 AM
Ferg   high torque :) the sound it makes will scare you...   Mar 12 2007, 11:29 AM
pin31   Cool....that alone should be worth the extra cost ...   Mar 12 2007, 11:40 AM
swl   Have you tried the screwdriver start just to confi...   Mar 12 2007, 11:43 AM
rick 918-S   Have you tried the screwdriver start just to conf...   Mar 12 2007, 11:46 AM
pin31   Thanks, I know the screwdriver trick but was too c...   Mar 12 2007, 12:00 PM
swl   I know what you mean. A less dramatic test is wit...   Mar 12 2007, 12:11 PM
pin31   Thanks, good suggestion.....   Mar 12 2007, 12:20 PM
yarin   If you aren't comfortable with the screw drive...   Mar 12 2007, 03:24 PM
Rand   No test (ala measuring voltage) is as effective as...   Mar 12 2007, 03:26 PM
rjames   The first (and only time) I've used this met...   Mar 12 2007, 04:30 PM
Rand   :lol: Nothing quite like the first time. The tric...   Mar 12 2007, 05:10 PM
Zaney   I am in the same boat with the starter issue. Wh...   Mar 12 2007, 08:43 PM
Tobra   Something like 73 to 89 for the 911, SR68X, or som...   Mar 13 2007, 12:45 AM
John   Nobody suggested it yet? Give it a healthy whack ...   Mar 13 2007, 01:09 AM
pin31   Hi Gang, thanks for all the suggestions..............   Mar 13 2007, 07:18 AM
Rand   How about the ignition switch? Dr914 states in h...   Mar 13 2007, 12:35 PM
9146986   If you do in fact need a starter, then I would get...   Mar 13 2007, 09:09 AM
pin31   News Flash: I tried John's suggestion and it w...   Mar 13 2007, 10:38 AM
John   It sounds to me like the teeth on the starter moto...   Mar 13 2007, 11:19 AM
pin31   Rand, good point and makes sense too. Hopefully D...   Mar 13 2007, 12:44 PM
dimitri   A 911 starter is a better replacement, 70-82 year....   Mar 13 2007, 02:04 PM
swl   When you replace the starter there is gotcha that...   Mar 13 2007, 04:30 PM
pin31   Dimitry, good point and I had already cleaned the ...   Mar 13 2007, 08:11 PM


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