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> TIRES, Tires, tires, what boots ya got on...
woobn8r
post May 10 2007, 12:23 PM
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Just thinking about tires for my 914 and thought I'd see what the "914 faithful" are runnung.

I considered doing a poll, but there are just too many options and combinations...

So what size/manufacturer/model boots do you have on your 914 and why. What application do you have? Street, CW, auto X, race....wheel size, stock fenders, GT flares , Sheridan wide body...

I'll start...

Current:
914-4 1.8 factory narrow body 205/50R15 "Champiro GT" on 15 x 7 aftermarket rims... good for rolling around the garage until resto is done.

Planning
914-6 3.2 steel GT flares 225/45R16 Yokohama Advan A048 on 16 x 8 Fuchs for limited street use with lapping day duties. 16 inch to clear brake upgrades, 45 series to keep overall diameter under 24", Yokohama as this is the only decent performance tire available in this size.
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post May 10 2007, 11:16 PM
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I have tested a lot of tires. Too many to count.

I have traditionally been a big fan of Yokohama products. Had A008RS IIs long ago and they were AMAZING. Loved the AVS Intermediate and went through several sets on my Merkur XR4Ti back in the day. A switch to Nittos (in the 2000 time frame) literally killed the joy of driving that car after the AVS Inters....

Last year, I autocrossed and then raced W-2-W on A032s and loved them, and I also love the Advan Neova.

But the ES100s are junk. Had them on my WRX and have them on my 914 and while they offer *okay* grip, noise, and treadwear, the big problem is that they are greasy in the wet and ultimately unpredictable, probably due to the squared off shoulder design (no rounded transition from tread to sidewall, just an edge). I will NEVER buy these tires again... a rare mis-step for Yoko.

Maybe I'm being too harsh... but they're not great tires IMHO. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)

If someone wants a half-worn set for free (and isn't in a hurry), PM me. I'll be too all too happy to pass them on when I get the Vredesteins.

As for the Korean brands, I can't speak to the Hankooks, but the Kumhos impressed me years ago on a 993. Then I saw Mueller's thread on how a Kumho sidewall failed and nearly killed his wife and him and ended up wreaking havoc on their 964. BIG damage. I was ready to chalk it up to chance.. until just one week later an co-worker had a freeway-speed sidewall failure with the same tires that looked IDENTICAL to the pics in Mueller's post -- as if someone had taken a razor blade all the way around the tire where the sidewall meets the tread.

I guess someone can tell me that this is vivid example instead of statistics all day long, but the fact that many of these Korean tires use a single-ply sidewall (even Yoko's cheapie ES100 has a two-ply sidewall...) is enough for me.


Finally, my dear friend Pat, Vredestein is only obscure here in the U.S. In Europe, and Nordic countries in particular, Vredesteins are revered. Alois Ruf instantly knew about the Sprint Classics when I mentioned them last year...

After driving the 916 on 185/70 Sprint Classics, I fully undertand why. The fact the Vreds look period-correct and retain the correct overall diameter while being a modern tire in terms of compounding and grip AND cost 1/3 of the archaic Michelin XWX repros available through Coker make them all the more attractive to me....

Can't wait to try 'em! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif)

pete

P.S. Oh yeah: Aaron, you're still my hero, even if you like ES100s... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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woobn8r   TIRES, Tires, tires   May 10 2007, 12:23 PM
Joe Ricard   Street 225/45-15 Hankook Ventus RS2 on 8" ri...   May 10 2007, 01:52 PM
brp914   My 3.2 is a street car on Mich pilot exalto 205/55...   May 10 2007, 02:16 PM
Aaron Cox   205/50 and 225/50 on a narrow body i run yoko AVS...   May 10 2007, 02:26 PM
Travis Neff   205x55x15 Bridgestone S-03's for street   May 10 2007, 02:33 PM
mudfoot76   Street - 205/60-15 Pirelli P6000 on aftermarket ri...   May 10 2007, 02:40 PM
horizontally-opposed   CURRENT: Yokohama ES100 205/55R15 on Fuchs five-lu...   May 10 2007, 04:24 PM
Aaron Cox   CURRENT: Yokohama ES100 205/55R15 on Fuchs five-l...   May 10 2007, 04:59 PM
r_towle   CURRENT: Yokohama ES100 205/55R15 on Fuchs five-...   May 11 2007, 12:36 PM
TonyAKAVW   195-50-15 Hankook RS2 tires. I like them. They a...   May 10 2007, 04:40 PM
Brando   195/50/15 Fuzion HRis on the front 195/60/15 Fuzio...   May 10 2007, 04:51 PM
jgara962   Hankook RS-2 225/50/15's on 7" rims front...   May 10 2007, 04:59 PM
grantsfo   You could save yourself a bundle of money if you w...   May 10 2007, 05:51 PM
PRS914-6   Aaron, sorry, I don't like the ES100's eit...   May 10 2007, 05:55 PM
iamchappy   I use 3 sets for different conditions, ES100's...   May 10 2007, 06:39 PM
Pat Garvey   Pirelli CN36's! 175/70. Love 'em. Q...   May 10 2007, 08:03 PM
SGB   Truely Pat, there aren't alot of XZX or P700 t...   May 10 2007, 08:30 PM
ws91420   Now discontinued Michelin pilot XGT H4 195/65/15   May 10 2007, 08:49 PM
SGB   Ooo, ooo... I had XGTs too (Z rated I think). Man...   May 10 2007, 08:58 PM
ws91420   these are H rated corners great   May 10 2007, 09:05 PM
Joe Ricard   Hankook is another Korean tire that is ranked righ...   May 10 2007, 09:23 PM
woobn8r   Wow! what a range...just looking at overall di...   May 10 2007, 10:08 PM
grantsfo   Wow! what a range...just looking at overall d...   May 10 2007, 11:19 PM
ws91420   165/sr15 whiich equates to a 165 82 15 in modern ...   May 10 2007, 10:55 PM
woobn8r   165/sr15 whiich equates to a 165 82 15 in modern...   May 11 2007, 08:58 AM
horizontally-opposed   I have tested a lot of tires. Too many to count. ...   May 10 2007, 11:16 PM
Aaron Cox   P.S. Oh yeah: Aaron, you're still my hero, ev...   May 10 2007, 11:22 PM
grantsfo   I guess someone can tell me that this is vivid e...   May 11 2007, 08:51 AM
horizontally-opposed   I guess someone can tell me that this is vivid ...   May 11 2007, 11:29 AM
iamchappy   I think size makes a difference with the ES100...   May 11 2007, 01:49 PM
horizontally-opposed   I think size makes a difference with the ES100...   May 11 2007, 01:58 PM
woobn8r   I think size makes a difference with the ES100...   May 11 2007, 02:54 PM
iamchappy   I agree they do not squeal...   May 11 2007, 02:20 PM
grantsfo   Getting back to original question. I have GT flare...   May 11 2007, 02:51 PM
i love porsche   for my 924 i run kumho ecsta MX's 205/50/15 al...   May 11 2007, 03:08 PM
DownUnderMan   On the teener Dunlop DZ02G in 195/55/15 on 15x7 ri...   May 11 2007, 03:11 PM


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