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post Jul 11 2007, 08:55 PM
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Hey, it's concours season and with Jafsmith's major score under his belt I feel it's time to ask:

Glycerine on rubber? How is it used?
Ritz Cloth on windows?
Back To Black on rubber?
Polish, buff, and shine?
Vinyl care?
How about wheelwells? Can I use Formula 409?

Back in my last 914 incarnation, in the 80's, the hot product was P21S for wheels. Anything knock it off its throne? How about NoTouch spray on tires?

Would the weenies and winners please list some of their favorite tips and products for the best looking original 914 finish?

Thanks!

Paul

And can you seriously use peanut butter on the rubber seals? Do you ever close the hood again??? (Was that tongue in cheek???)

A nod to Miss America: do you use vaseline on your teeth when you smile for the judges? Prep H on your sagging bags under your eyes after an all night cleaning session? Nah, I don't really want to know....
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post Jul 14 2007, 11:34 AM
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for a local concours (including local pca concours) the most important thing for a beginner is removing dirt and dust from the commonly checked hard to reach places - door jambs, under the dash, seat rails, etc.

And making sure you don't leave stuff in the car and that it is properly configured to be scored - i.e., windows up, roof on, take out the aftermarket floor mats, make sure there is nothing in the ashtray, glovebox and storage compartments, etc.

polishing with an electric RANDOM ORBITAL polisher is fine and foolproof. It simply cannot generate enough heat or friction to damage your paint. Even if you apply pressure to it and keep it in one spot for a long time. A high speed direct drive polisher is a completely different story. You never need to use that, and that would be a mistake. The only time you really need that is after a colorsand. It would be a dumb and unnecessary move for a hobbiest to ever use a direct drive high speed polisher on his car paint, to simply polish or wax the car.

The griot's process is good and foolproof. You could duplicate it for cheaper, though. You can get the Porter Cable random orbital on sale usually for around $110-$120, through Lowes and other such places. I think Griot's charges $200+ for the same item. The griot's polishes and pads are good, but very similar to Meguire's. Although Griot's is more expensive, it is easier for a newbie because you buy the complete "package" ready to go, rather than having to figure out what to get.

With that kind of polisher system, you can do the entire car in a couple of hours, using first the light cleaner/polish and pad, followed by the wax.
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orthobiz   Winning a Concours: Available Products   Jul 11 2007, 08:55 PM
Pat Garvey   Hey, it's concours season and with Jafsmith...   Jul 11 2007, 09:54 PM
Johny Blackstain   I'm no heavy, just a loud mouthed & opinio...   Jul 12 2007, 09:46 AM
Pat Garvey   I'm no heavy, just a loud mouthed & opini...   Jul 12 2007, 07:37 PM
orthobiz   More like step "2.1," like, what about r...   Jul 13 2007, 07:06 AM
Pat Garvey   More like step "2.1," like, what about ...   Jul 13 2007, 09:18 PM
smg914   More like step "2.1," like, what about ...   Jul 13 2007, 11:28 PM
orthobiz   Hi Paul, You'll see amazing results using 3M ...   Jul 14 2007, 09:12 AM
Eric_Shea   Not the damn peanut butter again... :rolleyes: ...   Jul 13 2007, 03:52 PM
Johny Blackstain   I think you'll get a better shine going electr...   Jul 14 2007, 09:32 AM
orthobiz   I think you'll get a better shine going elect...   Jul 14 2007, 10:56 AM
smg914   I do my polish and wax by hand. P21 is great stuff...   Jul 14 2007, 11:31 AM
914-8   for a local concours (including local pca concours...   Jul 14 2007, 11:34 AM
orthobiz   polishing with an electric RANDOM ORBITAL polishe...   Jul 14 2007, 11:44 AM
914-8   Without seeing your sears, I don't really know...   Jul 14 2007, 12:16 PM
914-8   There's a couple of things about his article. ...   Jul 14 2007, 12:23 PM
Johny Blackstain   Actually, I agree w/ what's been said here. I...   Jul 14 2007, 12:42 PM
orthobiz   You're right about Sears being the consumer pr...   Jul 14 2007, 03:40 PM
Johny Blackstain   OK, what about what Pat said about removing ligh...   Jul 14 2007, 05:50 PM
Pat Garvey   OK, what about what Pat said about removing lig...   Jul 16 2007, 09:52 PM
Johny Blackstain   I don't recommend this for those who have a...   Jul 17 2007, 07:37 AM
Pat Garvey   I don't recommend this for those who have ...   Jul 23 2007, 09:14 PM
Johny Blackstain   Al, maybe with a touch of naval JELLY! Pat...   Jul 24 2007, 08:59 AM
Jasfsmith   But....please! DO NOT put any form of paste...   Jul 24 2007, 08:34 AM
Pat Garvey   But....please! DO NOT put any form of past...   Aug 1 2007, 05:47 PM
Jasfsmith   The targa top- reconditioned? Then wax it. If n...   Jul 23 2007, 12:17 PM
Pat Garvey   The targa top- reconditioned? Then wax it. If ...   Jul 23 2007, 09:17 PM
Jasfsmith   OK, what about what Pat said about removing lig...   Jul 23 2007, 12:17 PM
914-8   Hey paul, I just saw an ad for Griots, for their w...   Jul 16 2007, 11:27 PM
Pat Garvey   I have something new, though it's not an elixi...   Aug 1 2007, 05:25 PM
Jasfsmith   This thing is called the LED Head (as in L-E-D)....   Aug 2 2007, 08:19 AM
Pat Garvey   This thing is called the LED Head (as in L-E-D)...   Aug 2 2007, 06:04 PM
Jasfsmith   While preparing the 914-6 at the Parade past, a fe...   Aug 3 2007, 09:49 AM
Jasfsmith   I'm a little disappointed. Figured if I put...   Aug 3 2007, 09:51 AM
krazykonrad   #M makes this stuff simply called "adhesive r...   Aug 8 2007, 10:39 AM
73Phoenix20   "Adhesive Remover"... sounds like Methy...   Aug 23 2007, 08:44 PM
Pat Garvey   "Adhesive Remover"... sounds like Meth...   Aug 23 2007, 09:40 PM
Jasfsmith   mmmmmm, MEK - donuts! mmmmmm, smell gud...   Aug 24 2007, 07:32 AM
Eric_Shea   Go AWAY! I told you we'd watch Tom. Don...   Aug 24 2007, 12:26 AM
Eric_Shea   Hey Pat, did you by chance, know my Uncle? He m...   Aug 24 2007, 12:27 AM
Pat Garvey   Hey Pat, did you by chance, know my Uncle? He ...   Aug 24 2007, 06:09 PM
Eric_Shea   Cause this place is like a car wreck at the side...   Aug 24 2007, 06:13 PM


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