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> insulating intake for h.p., anyone experimant with this
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post Jul 18 2007, 05:37 PM
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watching a speed report on h.p. gains. gail banks claims 1% h.p. gain for every 10 degrees cooler. i'd have to guess with a cold air intake to outside air and insulating the intake runners so they dont heat sink you could see relitively good gain. just wondering... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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post Jul 18 2007, 05:47 PM
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On the race car, I used to wrap the exhaust headers and intake manifolds. Also ran a cold air intake. Only problem was with the headers ....over time, the heat would crystallize the metal (can you say cracks?)

Then there's the story of the "Ice Man". He used dry ice to cool his intake air ... finally figured out that it wasn't a great idea when his car wouldn't start on the pre-grid due to the Carbon Dioxide being sucked in .... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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QUOTE(SLITS @ Jul 18 2007, 04:47 PM) *

On the race car, I used to wrap the exhaust headers and intake manifolds. Also ran a cold air intake. Only problem was with the headers ....over time, the heat would crystallize the metal (can you say cracks?)

Then there's the story of the "Ice Man". He used dry ice to cool his intake air ... finally figured out that it wasn't a great idea when his car wouldn't start on the pre-grid due to the Carbon Dioxide being sucked in .... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)


Funny story about dry ice and autocrossing...

A friend of mine who was a very good driver in a very well prepared car had an idea. He knew that if he cooled his intake charge, either fuel or air or both that it would be more densely packed molecules and therefore more molecules. He bought a display battery from Sears. These are just the plastic box without the lead cells. But he discovered that the posts were the same as a normal battery. So, he located a motorcycle battery in the interior behind his passenger seat and ran cables to his fake battery. Then he ran cables from the fake battery to ground and the starter. Inside his fake battery, he installed an old device I haven't seen in years called a Cool Can or Kool Kan, i do not recall the brand spelling. he plumbed his fuel in and out through the bottom of the battery. Then he would just pack the can with dry ice before an event. Dry ice evaporates so as long as you keep it sealed it stays frozen and does the deed you ask of it.
I suppose he got a HP or two that he didn't need as he was quite fast in anything he drove.
One event he let his mechanic drive. The guy was kind of a "good old boy" type who was in to Nascar. In the morning we had rain and in the afternoon the sun came out and dried the track. The event was on an oval track that ran the usual mini stock and demo derby crap on the weekend nights... Well our mechanic lost control on the sandy surface left when the rain dried up. He kept his foot into it because that is what the Nascar boys did according to him. He went pretty much full force into the wall making fiberglass feathers out of a nicely restored TVR 2500M front end. As the guys gathered around the wreck and determined that the mechanic / driver was OK. someone noticed a smoke like haze coming from the battery. They started calling for the fire extinguisher. My friend made quick arrangements for a trailer to haul the car out of there before someone could find his illegal modification and attribute all of his winning to it.

My guess? One and a half maybe two HP. More trouble than it is worth...
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orange914   insulating intake for h.p.   Jul 18 2007, 05:37 PM
904svo   watching a speed report on h.p. gains. gail bank...   Jul 18 2007, 05:39 PM
Rand   Cold air intake nets results. Insulating the runne...   Jul 18 2007, 05:45 PM
SLITS   On the race car, I used to wrap the exhaust header...   Jul 18 2007, 05:47 PM
ConeDodger   On the race car, I used to wrap the exhaust heade...   Jul 19 2007, 06:20 PM
Demick   http://members.rennlist.com/demick/coldair.html   Jul 18 2007, 06:02 PM
smj   http://members.rennlist.com/demick/coldair.html F...   Jul 18 2007, 07:06 PM
JmuRiz   http://members.rennlist.com/demick/coldair.html ...   Jul 19 2007, 01:10 PM
ChrisNPDrider   Nice! :beer2: Hmmmm, about 60 hrs left until...   Jul 18 2007, 06:09 PM
Brando   Time to fab an intercooler that sits right in fron...   Jul 19 2007, 01:22 PM
URY914   Just take a bag of ice and set on your engine befo...   Jul 19 2007, 02:05 PM
URY914   Just take a bag of ice and set on your engine bef...   Jul 19 2007, 02:40 PM
TonyAKAVW   At Lone Pine this year there was a guy doing tha...   Jul 19 2007, 02:10 PM
TonyAKAVW   Paul: If you used ice to cool your motor before a...   Jul 19 2007, 03:31 PM
URY914   Paul: If you used ice to cool your motor before ...   Jul 19 2007, 03:46 PM
914nerd   Here's a fundamental problem with the liquid n...   Jul 19 2007, 04:58 PM
Brando   I believe there's a company that makes an inte...   Jul 19 2007, 05:07 PM
TonyAKAVW   Brando: I bet if you couple that with one of thos...   Jul 19 2007, 05:12 PM
Brando   Tony: You forgot a shitload of stickers! If a...   Jul 19 2007, 05:45 PM
kwales   I would have thought the frost on the sides of th...   Jul 19 2007, 07:14 PM
ConeDodger   I would have thought the frost on the sides of t...   Jul 19 2007, 09:00 PM
Coy   For insulting your intake try this: "You hav...   Jul 19 2007, 08:16 PM


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