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orthobiz
post Jul 11 2007, 08:55 PM
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Hey, it's concours season and with Jafsmith's major score under his belt I feel it's time to ask:

Glycerine on rubber? How is it used?
Ritz Cloth on windows?
Back To Black on rubber?
Polish, buff, and shine?
Vinyl care?
How about wheelwells? Can I use Formula 409?

Back in my last 914 incarnation, in the 80's, the hot product was P21S for wheels. Anything knock it off its throne? How about NoTouch spray on tires?

Would the weenies and winners please list some of their favorite tips and products for the best looking original 914 finish?

Thanks!

Paul

And can you seriously use peanut butter on the rubber seals? Do you ever close the hood again??? (Was that tongue in cheek???)

A nod to Miss America: do you use vaseline on your teeth when you smile for the judges? Prep H on your sagging bags under your eyes after an all night cleaning session? Nah, I don't really want to know....
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post Jul 14 2007, 03:40 PM
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You're right about Sears being the consumer product. It's a big fluffy plastic thing that looks like a ghost in PacMan. From looking at the Porter Cable product, the Sears is definitely NOT a random orbital buffer.

I don't think the paint is heavily oxidized on my car; the haze only shows up in fluorescent light or near dusk and it looks great overall in the bright sun, so I think I regular polishing will do.

We don't have a Lowe's in my town; Home Depot only had Sawzalls and Grinders and drills. We have a baby NAPA; they carried NO 3M products in stock.

OK, what about what Pat said about removing lights and door handles and mirror? Worthwhile? Do I tape exposed areas (like the light bulbs and backing)? What kind of tape?

Thanks again. I'm thinking of doing this on my own!

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post Jul 14 2007, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(orthobiz @ Jul 14 2007, 05:40 PM) *


OK, what about what Pat said about removing lights and door handles and mirror? Worthwhile? Do I tape exposed areas (like the light bulbs and backing)? What kind of tape?

Thanks again. I'm thinking of doing this on my own!

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See if you can find something on line... type in random orbital buffer into Google & see what pops up. I have a Sears, but its going on 26yrs old now & they don't make them that good anymore.

Take off the mirror, it's easier than going around it or taping it off. I think lazy. Pop your engine lid, wrap some newspaper around it as best you can, close & the grill is now protected from wax. I never thought of using any peanut product on the grill (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) . Probably best to remove the wipers as well. Disconnect your battery & pop up your headlights manually, (knob), & once they're up take off the shrouds around the headlights. If you have black sail trim tape it or take it off.

The targa top- reconditioned? Then wax it. If not, go get it reconditioned. Wax turns pure white on an old targa top. However now that I think about it peanut butter would probably be OK for the top (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) .

I have no fear of wax on rubber as you all know so do what you will w/ your bumper tops. Also realize that after you wax your car is covered in dust from the wax so it's time to wash again, ergo no insect or peanut smell problem from using peanut butter. Laugh all you want but plan on eating crow the 1st time you try it.


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BTW- this does not mean cover your rubber w/ wax... why would you do that? Just more work right? Think lazy!
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QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Jul 14 2007, 05:50 PM) *

QUOTE(orthobiz @ Jul 14 2007, 05:40 PM) *


OK, what about what Pat said about removing lights and door handles and mirror? Worthwhile? Do I tape exposed areas (like the light bulbs and backing)? What kind of tape?

Thanks again. I'm thinking of doing this on my own!

Paul


See if you can find something on line... type in random orbital buffer into Google & see what pops up. I have a Sears, but its going on 26yrs old now & they don't make them that good anymore.

Take off the mirror, it's easier than going around it or taping it off. I think lazy. Pop your engine lid, wrap some newspaper around it as best you can, close & the grill is now protected from wax. I never thought of using any peanut product on the grill (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) . Probably best to remove the wipers as well. Disconnect your battery & pop up your headlights manually, (knob), & once they're up take off the shrouds around the headlights. If you have black sail trim tape it or take it off.

The targa top- reconditioned? Then wax it. If not, go get it reconditioned. Wax turns pure white on an old targa top. However now that I think about it peanut butter would probably be OK for the top (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) .

I have no fear of wax on rubber as you all know so do what you will w/ your bumper tops. Also realize that after you wax your car is covered in dust from the wax so it's time to wash again, ergo no insect or peanut smell problem from using peanut butter. Laugh all you want but plan on eating crow the 1st time you try it.


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BTW- this does not mean cover your rubber w/ wax... why would you do that? Just more work right? Think lazy!

Al, You are driving me so nuts with the p-butter thing, that I'm actually going to try it this week - on one spot. I don't recommend this for those who have allergies to peanuts, or any other land nuts!

But....please! DO NOT put any form of paste wax on your bumper pads. They ARE porous & will suck it in. In fact, NEVER put wax, in any form, on your bumper pads - NEVER, EVER!. Jeez! Youn know what these things cost to replace? Guess how much longer you'll even be able to find replacements. Just respect the ones you have. If you put WAX on them, even once, write them off. I've seen it a bunch of times - may as well paqint them white.

Ah, but I have a cure!!! I have the mystery potion!!!
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QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Jul 16 2007, 11:52 PM) *

I don't recommend this for those who have allergies to peanuts, or any other land nuts!


Ya know, sometimes my ignorance even astonishes me. This is an unbelievably valid point that never occured to me. People are allergic to peanuts & this could very well be dangerous for them. This really never occured to me & I sincerely apologize for my flagrant ignorance.
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QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Jul 16 2007, 11:52 PM) *

I don't recommend this for those who have allergies to peanuts, or any other land nuts!


Ya know, sometimes my ignorance even astonishes me. This is an unbelievably valid point that never occured to me. People are allergic to peanuts & this could very well be dangerous for them. This really never occured to me & I sincerely apologize for my flagrant ignorance.


Al,

I don't have an allergy to peanuts. My problem is that I love peanut butter so much I'd probably lick it all off, maybe with a touch of naval JELLY!

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Al,

maybe with a touch of naval JELLY!

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orthobiz   Winning a Concours: Available Products   Jul 11 2007, 08:55 PM
Pat Garvey   Hey, it's concours season and with Jafsmith...   Jul 11 2007, 09:54 PM
Johny Blackstain   I'm no heavy, just a loud mouthed & opinio...   Jul 12 2007, 09:46 AM
Pat Garvey   I'm no heavy, just a loud mouthed & opini...   Jul 12 2007, 07:37 PM
orthobiz   More like step "2.1," like, what about r...   Jul 13 2007, 07:06 AM
Pat Garvey   More like step "2.1," like, what about ...   Jul 13 2007, 09:18 PM
smg914   More like step "2.1," like, what about ...   Jul 13 2007, 11:28 PM
orthobiz   Hi Paul, You'll see amazing results using 3M ...   Jul 14 2007, 09:12 AM
Eric_Shea   Not the damn peanut butter again... :rolleyes: ...   Jul 13 2007, 03:52 PM
Johny Blackstain   I think you'll get a better shine going electr...   Jul 14 2007, 09:32 AM
orthobiz   I think you'll get a better shine going elect...   Jul 14 2007, 10:56 AM
smg914   I do my polish and wax by hand. P21 is great stuff...   Jul 14 2007, 11:31 AM
914-8   for a local concours (including local pca concours...   Jul 14 2007, 11:34 AM
orthobiz   polishing with an electric RANDOM ORBITAL polishe...   Jul 14 2007, 11:44 AM
914-8   Without seeing your sears, I don't really know...   Jul 14 2007, 12:16 PM
914-8   There's a couple of things about his article. ...   Jul 14 2007, 12:23 PM
Johny Blackstain   Actually, I agree w/ what's been said here. I...   Jul 14 2007, 12:42 PM
orthobiz   You're right about Sears being the consumer pr...   Jul 14 2007, 03:40 PM
Johny Blackstain   OK, what about what Pat said about removing ligh...   Jul 14 2007, 05:50 PM
Pat Garvey   OK, what about what Pat said about removing lig...   Jul 16 2007, 09:52 PM
Johny Blackstain   I don't recommend this for those who have a...   Jul 17 2007, 07:37 AM
Pat Garvey   I don't recommend this for those who have ...   Jul 23 2007, 09:14 PM
Johny Blackstain   Al, maybe with a touch of naval JELLY! Pat...   Jul 24 2007, 08:59 AM
Jasfsmith   But....please! DO NOT put any form of paste...   Jul 24 2007, 08:34 AM
Pat Garvey   But....please! DO NOT put any form of past...   Aug 1 2007, 05:47 PM
Jasfsmith   The targa top- reconditioned? Then wax it. If n...   Jul 23 2007, 12:17 PM
Pat Garvey   The targa top- reconditioned? Then wax it. If ...   Jul 23 2007, 09:17 PM
Jasfsmith   OK, what about what Pat said about removing lig...   Jul 23 2007, 12:17 PM
914-8   Hey paul, I just saw an ad for Griots, for their w...   Jul 16 2007, 11:27 PM
Pat Garvey   I have something new, though it's not an elixi...   Aug 1 2007, 05:25 PM
Jasfsmith   This thing is called the LED Head (as in L-E-D)....   Aug 2 2007, 08:19 AM
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Jasfsmith   mmmmmm, MEK - donuts! mmmmmm, smell gud...   Aug 24 2007, 07:32 AM
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