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> 1.7 aftermarket heads, anything out there worth looking into, reasonable price/h.p. gain?
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post Jun 16 2007, 09:31 PM
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anything out there worth looking into that is reasonably priced that gives any horse power gain? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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any up for sell out there?


I have one set of HAM prepared 2.0 heads for sale with 42X36 valves, new seats and the full HAM treatment with 12mm plugs and etc.. I'll take 1,200 for the pair

This is typically what labor is for rebuilding 2.0 heads, but these have all new valves, seats, guides, springs and retainers (all our updated parts). These would be great for up to a 2056cc engine with the 96mm bore size.

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i've heard when you go that big the cylendar walls are thin causing heating issues? is this different with quality aftermarket/o.e.m.? at what point do i need to machine case/heads?

96mm is not big, we consider the 96mm cylinder a stock replacement- I haven't buil;t a 94mm bored engine for 7 years!

A properly configured engine will not have heat issues, we use the 96mm cylinder at power levels to date of over 212HP with the stock cooling system.

Its all in the combo.
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any up for sell out there?


I have one set of HAM prepared 2.0 heads for sale with 42X36 valves, new seats and the full HAM treatment with 12mm plugs and etc.. I'll take 1,200 for the pair

This is typically what labor is for rebuilding 2.0 heads, but these have all new valves, seats, guides, springs and retainers (all our updated parts). These would be great for up to a 2056cc engine with the 96mm bore size.

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i've heard when you go that big the cylendar walls are thin causing heating issues? is this different with quality aftermarket/o.e.m.? at what point do i need to machine case/heads?

96mm is not big, we consider the 96mm cylinder a stock replacement- I haven't buil;t a 94mm bored engine for 7 years!

A properly configured engine will not have heat issues, we use the 96mm cylinder at power levels to date of over 212HP with the stock cooling system.

Its all in the combo.


just wanted to thank you all who's experianced input has helped shape this build. it's a long road but so far we have located/bought most items needed for a 2056. i was a mechanic and built engines for years before my accident so this has been great learning walking kenny thru it.

i just need to get the (9550?) cam and a few misc. from jake 8/1/07 when the cams will be avalible. special thanks to sir andy for the bottom end items needed to make the 2056 happen. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

along with locating parts we've checked previously balanced rods w/ bearings and nuts (29 oz.'s each) plastic gauged new rod bearings and built rod/crank assembly, sand blasted/painted tin, tore down spare 1.7 for parts/hardware misc. and located a set of o.e.m. swivel feet. we'll have them machined next week. this list may help give others an idea of whats needed to convert to 2056 from 1.7/1.8.


ALREADY PURCHASED:
- heads
- tin
- 2.0 intake runners and plenum, 2.0 throttle body, 2.0 air cleaner
- 2.0 case, crank, rods, 96mm pistons, cylinders
- (1) 96mm piston
- bearings, crank polish, gaskets, micropolished crank

NEED TO GET:
- Jake raby- cam/lifters set(RAT9550), push rods, cam gear set?, full flow oil conversion?
- $--- misc.

2056 ENGINE SPECIFICATIONS: http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/cylinderheads.htm
71mm stroke x 96mm bore
- Len Huffman prepared .039 2.0 Porsche http://www.haminc.biz/vw/type4.shtml
- relocated and sized spark plug
- valve 42x36 mm
- improved seat material and machining process
- 55 cc
- chromoly retainers
- stainless steel valves
- 2.0 “GA” case
- line bored (0.50mm) 0.20
- balanced rotating assembly
- all 4 rods/bearings and nuts each at 29.0 ounce exactly
- lightened flywheel
- 2.0 crank turned (0.25mm) 0.10 main, (0.25mm) 0.010 rod, std. thrust and micro polished
- 5 dowel pins flywheel to crank
- oil galleys drilled/tapped and plugged
- 96mm Keith black hypereutectic flat top pistons
- Jake raby RAT 9550 cam/lifters set
- D-jet fuel injection
- pertronix electronic ignition
- 1.7 stainless steel exhaust/monza muffler
- estimated 110ish+- reliable H.P. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif)
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orange914   1.7 aftermarket heads   Jun 16 2007, 09:31 PM
George H.   reasonably priced 1st what reasonably priced t...   Jun 17 2007, 12:24 AM
orange914   [quote name='orange914' post='912240' date='Jun 1...   Jun 17 2007, 06:29 PM
Bleyseng   reasonably priced 1st what reasonably priced ...   Jun 18 2007, 09:18 AM
orange914   [quote name='George H.' post='912278' date='Jun 1...   Jun 18 2007, 11:53 PM
mills914/s   Where do they put the plug on the other heads...Do...   Jun 17 2007, 10:19 AM
Mueller   I think only 1.8/2.0 replacment heads are availabl...   Jun 17 2007, 12:24 PM
orange914   I think only 1.8/2.0 replacment heads are availab...   Jun 17 2007, 06:42 PM
brer   Do you have a set of 1.7's right now? if you...   Jun 17 2007, 09:15 PM
orange914   Do you have a set of 1.7's right now? if you...   Jun 18 2007, 11:52 PM
Tobra   lotta power to be had in a nice set of heads   Jun 18 2007, 09:26 AM
Jake Raby   http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/cylinderheads.h...   Jun 18 2007, 12:42 PM
orange914   http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/cylinderheads....   Jun 19 2007, 10:43 PM
Bleyseng   ah, I see the LE160 can be ordered in 1700 size. :...   Jun 18 2007, 12:50 PM
brer   On a budget, if your 1.7 heads are original 914 1....   Jun 18 2007, 01:06 PM
anthony   IMHO, there are pretty much no easy/cheap/simple u...   Jun 18 2007, 01:57 PM
brer   Len Hoffman. http://www.haminc.biz/   Jun 19 2007, 12:48 AM
Bleyseng   with the 66mm stroke you can go to 96mm and have a...   Jun 19 2007, 12:53 AM
orange914   with the 66mm stroke you can go to 96mm and have ...   Jun 19 2007, 11:13 AM
orange914   with the 66mm stroke you can go to 96mm and have ...   Jun 19 2007, 10:46 PM
orange914   with the 66mm stroke you can go to 96mm and have ...   Jul 1 2007, 09:11 PM
McMark   1.7 heads lack the better port design and lack the...   Jun 20 2007, 12:11 AM
orange914   1.7 heads lack the better port design and lack th...   Jun 20 2007, 12:25 AM
orange914   1.7 heads lack the better port design and lack th...   Jun 21 2007, 08:59 PM
Jake Raby   I have one set of HAM prepared 2.0 heads for sal...   Jun 20 2007, 08:49 AM
orange914   I have one set of HAM prepared 2.0 heads for sal...   Jun 20 2007, 05:29 PM
orange914   I have one set of HAM prepared 2.0 heads for sa...   Jun 25 2007, 04:16 PM
orange914   I have one set of HAM prepared 2.0 heads for sa...   Jul 30 2007, 07:25 PM
toon1   MIke, one of Jakes radio shows talks all about Cyl...   Jun 20 2007, 10:04 AM
Jake Raby   These are OEM "039" 2.0 castings that I ...   Jun 20 2007, 06:35 PM
brer   Thats a smokin deal. :toke:   Jun 20 2007, 07:18 PM
orange914   Thats a smokin deal. :toke: i agree. :drooley...   Jun 21 2007, 12:04 AM
Jake Raby   Yep.. The castings were cherry before the work as ...   Jun 20 2007, 09:58 PM
Bleyseng   110hp   Jun 21 2007, 08:06 AM
Jake Raby   What induction??? These heads are good for 125HP ...   Jun 21 2007, 10:12 AM
orange914   What induction??? These heads are good for 125HP...   Jun 21 2007, 01:03 PM
toon1   What induction??? These heads are good for 125H...   Jun 21 2007, 01:21 PM
orange914   [quote name='orange914' post='914238' date='Jun 2...   Jun 21 2007, 02:08 PM
George H.   according to auto Atlanta the 1.8 heads/96mm is ...   Jun 21 2007, 02:15 PM
George H.   [quote name='Jake Raby' post='914193' date='Jun 2...   Jun 21 2007, 01:53 PM
orange914   [quote name='Jake Raby' post='914193' date='Jun ...   Jun 21 2007, 02:26 PM
Jake Raby   Use 2.0 ECU,injectors, plenum and runners and you...   Jun 21 2007, 02:39 PM
orange914   Use 2.0 ECU,injectors, plenum and runners and you...   Jun 21 2007, 02:57 PM
George H.   1 according to a 914 parts supplier catalog i was...   Jun 21 2007, 03:21 PM
George H.   mike why don't you talk to nate (addwestern he...   Jun 21 2007, 10:41 PM
orange914   mike why don't you talk to nate (addwestern h...   Jun 22 2007, 05:21 PM
Mueller   mike why don't you talk to nate (addwestern ...   Jun 22 2007, 05:26 PM
orange914   [quote name='orange914' post='914783' date='Jun 2...   Jun 22 2007, 08:55 PM
Borderline   I built my 1911 with Hoffman rebuilt 1.8 heads and...   Jun 22 2007, 10:03 AM
Jake Raby   AND the stock cam SUCKS!   Jun 22 2007, 11:02 AM
Bleyseng   who dat?   Jun 22 2007, 06:42 PM
Jake Raby   My 9550 and 9590 are both designed for D jet spe...   Jun 22 2007, 08:46 PM
orange914   My 9550 and 9590 are both designed for D jet sp...   Jun 22 2007, 09:15 PM
Jake Raby   My 9550 and 9590 are both designed for D jet s...   Jun 24 2007, 05:21 PM
orange914   oh yeah... cam and full gaskets too $$   Jun 22 2007, 09:00 PM
brer   I took a picture of my converted 1.7 heads yesterd...   Jun 24 2007, 05:14 PM
Jake Raby   Just saw this and it's nearly 0100 in the east...   Jun 25 2007, 11:59 PM
orange914   Just saw this and it's nearly 0100 in the eas...   Jun 26 2007, 01:33 AM
McMark   and some modeling to do :woohoo: :rotfl:   Jul 2 2007, 01:57 AM
brer   take pics! :)   Jul 1 2007, 09:28 PM
George H.   :hijacked: Mike why don''t you get your ...   Jul 30 2007, 07:53 PM
orange914   :hijacked: Mike why don''t you get your...   Jul 31 2007, 12:17 AM


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