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post Aug 8 2007, 09:20 PM
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post Aug 9 2007, 05:55 PM
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I have a vested interest in this as I am trying to restore a 914 for an electric conversion. My 2 cents:

The thing about these conversions is that I think they make financial sense even though the cost of the conversion is high. What you have to consider is that the kit (AC or DC) plus a 914 in decent- to-restored condition is comparable to a new car. I don't think of the kit price as having to be paid back by reduced operating costs. Looking at it this way, if you can put a kit in a 914 for even $15-20K aren't you paying LESS than a new two-seater? It gets better because the electric drivetrain is simple, bulletproof, and should last longer than you will. The motors for instance should go over a million miles with minimal maintenance (brushes if DC and nothing if AC). Entire systems (exhaust, ignition, fuel, lubrication, etc) don't exist so there has to be savings there. If you can keep the rest of the car maintained you have a car that costs the same-to-less to start and less through the years.

So, if you take the cost of the kit out of the picture the straight electric/gas comparison I figure goes roughly like this:

-The lead acid batteries used cost about $1400. They can be recharged about 550 times so $1400/550 = $2.54/cycle
-The batteries hold about 17.4kwh of electricity. At .15 kwh that's $2.61
$2.54 + $2.61 = $5.15 for about 60 miles of range (combined city/highway)
-$5.15/60miles = 8.6 cents/mile (electric)
-60 miles at 30mpg at $2.80/gal = $5.60
-$5.60/60miles = 9.3 cents/mile (gas)

The numbers used are estimates and things like charger efficiency are not factored in but they give me a sense that the economics are here now and that you can do something about the environmental mess we're in and be fiscally responsible too. Oh, and you get to drive around in a cool car!
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spare time toys   electric 914 kit guy   Aug 8 2007, 09:20 PM
racunniff   is this someone from here? [url=http://www.youtu...   Aug 8 2007, 09:54 PM
lotus_65   you know, it's worth a discussion. but someone...   Aug 9 2007, 07:22 AM
jimtab   you know, it's worth a discussion. but someon...   Aug 9 2007, 07:48 PM
Sparky   $13,415.00!!!! :blink: No...   Aug 9 2007, 09:09 AM
racunniff   $13,415.00!!!! :blink: N...   Aug 9 2007, 10:00 AM
scotty   As I've said before in other threads :) you...   Aug 9 2007, 10:37 AM
PThompson509   [quote name='racunniff' post='933272' date='Aug 9...   Aug 9 2007, 01:02 PM
pjf   I have a vested interest in this as I am trying to...   Aug 9 2007, 05:55 PM
swl   Don't mean to be negative but electric cars wi...   Aug 9 2007, 09:15 PM
pjf   Don't mean to be negative but electric cars w...   Aug 10 2007, 05:28 PM
Vacca Rabite   I think that Electric 914s are way cool, and would...   Aug 9 2007, 10:02 PM
racunniff   I also am building the Electro Automotive AC kit: ...   Aug 9 2007, 11:57 PM
So.Cal.914   I also am building the Electro Automotive AC kit:...   Aug 10 2007, 07:11 PM
racunniff   [quote name='racunniff' post='933535' date='Aug 9...   Aug 10 2007, 07:19 PM
JPB   Until the perfection of fuel cells and super condu...   Aug 10 2007, 05:57 PM
degreeoff   yeah...I must concur with the above....10K minimum...   Aug 10 2007, 06:05 PM
JPB   :trophy: Let 914 wisdom shine!   Aug 10 2007, 06:09 PM
JPB   Hold up here ya high dollar homey, if you doin thi...   Aug 10 2007, 07:34 PM
swl   PJF, Good analysis. You might be pushing some of ...   Aug 10 2007, 07:37 PM
Mike914   PJF, The 10-20 million e-cars without a new power...   Aug 10 2007, 09:18 PM
Bartlett 914   Trade off is only 20 miles range. When batteries...   Aug 11 2007, 09:18 AM
Mike914   [quote name='Mike914' post='933880' date='Aug 10 ...   Aug 11 2007, 09:55 PM
pjf   Thanks SWL. That sounds like one sweet solar pane...   Aug 10 2007, 07:54 PM
scotty   If that 20 mile range is with a 12 second 1/4 mile...   Aug 11 2007, 11:00 AM
Mike914   If that 20 mile range is with a 12 second 1/4 mil...   Aug 11 2007, 09:57 PM


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