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> Speed channel, This channel is lame!!
championgt1
post Oct 6 2007, 12:59 PM
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Speed channel sucks!! Two hours of the Petit LeMans and then for the next five hours it's cars and trucks going in circles. Does anybody remember when it was Speedvision and they showed cool stuff all day everyday? What happened to the World ralley, DTM, Australian V8 touring cars, British touring cars, and nonstop coverage of races such as 12 hours of Sebring, 24 hours of LeMan and of course the Petit LeMan. Sorry for the rant I guess I just needed to vent a little.
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post Oct 9 2007, 12:59 PM
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Let's see, for all you F1, Cart and IRL Fans.
Dario Franchitti-Nascar, Jacques Villenueve-Nascar, Juan Pablo Montoya- Nascar, Ron Fellows, Boris Said, Lewis, Tracy, Andretti -all looking for a full time Nascar ride. The kids I occasionally race with in karting all talk about going to the Bondurant school, F3 in europe and then maybe coming back, moving to the south and getting a Nascar ride. Like it or not, that's the popular route these days.

Jacques comments at last weekends Talladega race were very telling in my eyes. He was asked why he was coming to Nascar. His response was "to race with the best drivers in the world" and that F1 was very boring due to the lack of competition and passing. He said "it's fun if your out front but very boring otherwise".

I road race in SCCA, I work at the Long Beach Grand Prix for SCCA, Nascar at Sears Point and I worked the phoenix F1 races in the old days. The most entertainting by far is watching the skill required to throw a 3200 pound, 800 horsepower race car around Sears Point from 15 feet off the track at turn one.

You couldn't pay me enough to watch an F1 race anymore. Boring doesn't describe it. Same for Champ car, ALMS, IRL and Petit Lemans. I hate that that's what its come down to but the other series have decided that competition doesn't matter. Nascar has been smart enough to figure out that it matters very much and they work it. No, I don't like all the advertising but it does bring in the cubic dollars necessary to fund the racing. As far as advertising goes what do you think it is when a Ferrari or BMW is out front in F1 or Jake Raby is on this site talking about his latest engine? In F1 they don't just say that some car driven by some guy is out front. In that respect, Nascar and F1 are the same.

Oh, and let's talk constructors in Nascar while were at it, Penske, Roush, Felix Sabates, Gibbs, A.J Foyt, any of those names ring a bell for you guys? The best engineers in the world are presently in Nascar along with arguably the best drivers. They are getting more out of these cars than anyone ever thought possible. On Sunday those engines ran 8800 rpm for 500 miles. That's a pushrod V-8 with a carb.
Nascar not only knows how to turn left they also road race too bad the road racers can't figure out how to turn left.

The last NASCAR race I attended at California speedway I went with three other individuals, all road racers, all professionals in one field or another. The days of the red neck have been gone for along time, but I will admit Nascar thinks it has to be true to that base. I think there are probably, at least from what I've seen on this site, a higher percentage of rednecks driving 914's then there are remaining as Nascar fans.

As of next year Nascar has dropped all of the beer and tabacco sponsorships for its series and will now have nothing but technology companies in their place. They are realizing what their new base is and adjusting for it. To bad CART, IRL, and some of the other series didn't make that same adjustment.

Attendance figures? the numbers mentioned in the post above would only account for a typical one mile Nascar oval. Bristol now holds 165,000 and is sold out for the next five years and that does not include the corporate suites. Brickyard 400 attendance is normally over 400,000 each year and that is at the track. The figures for TV go into the millions.

Having said all of the above, I will say of all the series the ones I really miss are Trans-Am in its heyday and Lemans and Daytona when they meant something. Unfortunately, their demise was an inability to understand marketing and the changing views of the American and European peoples.

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championgt1   Speed channel   Oct 6 2007, 12:59 PM
porschecb   I think they broadcast what they think has the mos...   Oct 6 2007, 01:06 PM
ahdoman   Speed Channel?..... :confused: Oh, you mean the ...   Oct 6 2007, 01:13 PM
Chuck   On the one hand, I am happy that there is a channe...   Oct 6 2007, 01:15 PM
Cap'n Krusty   On the one hand, I am happy that there is a chann...   Oct 7 2007, 11:06 AM
effutuo101   Satalite TV does have a Nascar channel. WRC didn...   Oct 6 2007, 01:21 PM
Blood red 914-6gt   What channel is VS? Is this available through Comc...   Oct 6 2007, 01:26 PM
championgt1   What channel is VS? Is this available through Com...   Oct 6 2007, 01:33 PM
Blood red 914-6gt   Oh... I found it :D Hey, there is still one more F...   Oct 6 2007, 01:31 PM
effutuo101   Yep, China. Church of F1 starts at 10pm PST. On on...   Oct 6 2007, 01:48 PM
Blood red 914-6gt   I have never liked Alonso. Maybe it is just the wa...   Oct 6 2007, 01:54 PM
jaminM3   :agree: Interlagos in Brazil! I don't ...   Oct 6 2007, 02:17 PM
Blood red 914-6gt   :agree: Interlagos in Brazil! I don't...   Oct 6 2007, 02:52 PM
Spoke   I laugh about Honda and Toyota... :rotfl: F1 i...   Oct 6 2007, 03:21 PM
Scott Carlberg   maybe the NEW Motorsports Channel, The Racing Ne...   Oct 6 2007, 02:33 PM
lotus_65   oh you mean the "unique pinks" channel? ...   Oct 6 2007, 06:44 PM
boxstr   If I remember correctly Speed was purchased by a N...   Oct 6 2007, 07:33 PM
BKLA   If I remember correctly Speed was purchased by a ...   Oct 8 2007, 02:55 PM
joeav8tor   I exercise while watching Speed...my classic car w...   Oct 7 2007, 10:01 AM
HAM Inc   If Lewis keeps winning in F1 he might just earn hi...   Oct 7 2007, 10:22 AM
lotus_65   nascar is a great example of marketing to the lowe...   Oct 7 2007, 11:25 AM
914rrr   nascar is a great example of marketing to the low...   Oct 7 2007, 09:02 PM
Blood red 914-6gt   "I'm not saying I wouldn't go fishin ...   Oct 7 2007, 11:45 AM
rdauenhauer   :headbanger: Big UP's to Casey! Think o...   Oct 7 2007, 05:00 PM
scotty b   :headbanger: Big UP's to Casey! Think ...   Oct 7 2007, 09:12 PM
blitZ   The only thing I watch on Speed is the F1 and Vict...   Oct 7 2007, 05:28 PM
BMartin914   The only thing I watch on Speed is the F1 and Vic...   Oct 7 2007, 08:41 PM
alpha434   That kid is so wicked cool. Since seeing that, I...   Oct 7 2007, 05:31 PM
SGB   Well that China F1 race was great (and so was peti...   Oct 7 2007, 09:26 PM
rdauenhauer   Farfegnugen :confused: B)-->
Vacca Rabite   NASCAR is the predominant motor sport in the US, b...   Oct 8 2007, 12:02 PM
championgt1   NASCAR is the predominant motor sport in the US, ...   Oct 8 2007, 12:52 PM
Blood red 914-6gt   NASCAR is the predominant motor sport in the US, ...   Oct 8 2007, 03:04 PM
Vacca Rabite   I am going to have to respectfully disagree with ...   Oct 8 2007, 04:50 PM
Blood red 914-6gt   :( I think you may be right about the soccer analo...   Oct 8 2007, 05:02 PM
Thack   The reason for the odd hours for F1 is the time it...   Oct 8 2007, 05:29 PM
BMartin914   As many people as there are that are fans of F1, L...   Oct 8 2007, 09:30 PM
Thack   As many people as there are that are fans of F1, ...   Oct 9 2007, 09:45 AM
SLITS   I prefer "Swamp Buggy Racing" .... the o...   Oct 9 2007, 10:05 AM
jhadler   Yup, I agree. I can't stand the proliferation ...   Oct 9 2007, 12:11 PM
Scott Carlberg   Villenueve may have said "to race with the be...   Oct 9 2007, 05:22 PM
Vacca Rabite   When the regulars routinely complain about the 2 ...   Oct 10 2007, 08:58 AM
turboman808   As I am learning all to well it's not about br...   Oct 9 2007, 06:40 PM
scotty b   As I am learning all to well it's not about b...   Oct 9 2007, 07:27 PM
woobn8r   I think the France family realizes that there are ...   Oct 10 2007, 09:50 AM
Thack   What about the alleged planned finishes in NASCAR ...   Oct 10 2007, 10:31 AM
jhadler   "to race with the best drivers in the world.....   Oct 10 2007, 11:22 AM
toomanyinkc   I remember well when it was SpeedVision, as do the...   Oct 10 2007, 12:17 PM
andys   Speed Channel: A whole evening of back-to-back epi...   Oct 10 2007, 12:35 PM
Blood red 914-6gt   Speed Channel: A whole evening of back-to-back ep...   Oct 10 2007, 01:06 PM
rdauenhauer   What a joke not only do the teams struggle to con...   Oct 10 2007, 03:46 PM
jgara962   I rarely even check to see what's on Speed any...   Oct 10 2007, 04:24 PM
beech4rd   Nascar does not own Speed. It's a subsidiary ...   Oct 10 2007, 06:22 PM
rdauenhauer   Speed channel sucks! That said, Im glad I have...   Oct 10 2007, 07:41 PM
woobn8r   I suppose since F1 in Canada is carried by TSN (Th...   Oct 10 2007, 07:50 PM
championgt1   Last Sundays programming. 19 straight hours of Pim...   Nov 30 2010, 10:58 PM
1968Cayman   Stopped watching it as soon as they partnered with...   Nov 30 2010, 11:57 PM
scotty b   I thing 3 years qualifies   Dec 1 2010, 10:24 AM
BigDBass   I've been watching HD Theatre infinitely more ...   Dec 1 2010, 05:00 PM
Drums66   ...I look at some of the stuff(speed channel) :pop...   Dec 1 2010, 05:34 PM
speed metal army   Nascar...The lowest common denominator rule....   Dec 1 2010, 09:20 PM
race914   It's Dec 6th about 4:15 PDT. Just turned on S...   Dec 6 2010, 06:19 PM
championgt1   It's Dec 6th about 4:15 PDT. Just turned on ...   Dec 6 2010, 10:40 PM
Cheapsnake   Roadracing - Too dumb for opera, too smart for NAS...   Dec 6 2010, 06:31 PM
'73-914kid   For some reason they are playing Aussie V8 Superca...   Dec 6 2010, 07:03 PM


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