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> Speed channel, This channel is lame!!
championgt1
post Oct 6 2007, 12:59 PM
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Speed channel sucks!! Two hours of the Petit LeMans and then for the next five hours it's cars and trucks going in circles. Does anybody remember when it was Speedvision and they showed cool stuff all day everyday? What happened to the World ralley, DTM, Australian V8 touring cars, British touring cars, and nonstop coverage of races such as 12 hours of Sebring, 24 hours of LeMan and of course the Petit LeMan. Sorry for the rant I guess I just needed to vent a little.
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post Oct 10 2007, 11:22 AM
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"to race with the best drivers in the world..."

Hmm, he may have said that, but my perspective is this: NASCAR, like all other big league motorsports, is about MONEY. Getting butts in the seats, and eyes on the tube. Without them, it's a Spec 7 race at the Glen (which, by the way, tends to have better racing than F1 these days. but I digress.).

What is the draw for these drivers to go to NASCAR? It's not just the number of races (which is huge compared to F1), but it's about competition. The parity is so great in these NASCAR fields ('cause it is, for the most part, a spec series), that any one could win any given race, and the driving competition is fierce throughout the field. Jaques was pretty right on about F1. If you get in front, it's your race to loose, and if you don't, it's can be a "boring" 200 mph parade. NASCAR is CLOSE competition, frequently to the point of contact (isn't that the point of NASCAR anyway?). And drivers who want that kind of competition, and still want to collect a large salary, will be drawn to NASCAR. NASCAR is the ONLY profession racing organization in the US that is operating at a profit (and a rather large one at that). The next closest is SCCA Pro racing, and they're ONLY loosing a couple hundred thousand a year. It's a big step down to the millions upon millions dollars that CHAMP and IRL are hemorrhaging every year, not to mention others. Getting a ride in NASCAR is big money, and it's secure money.

As for Speed Channel? NASCAR owns them lock-stock-and-barrel. Why bother to call it Speed Channel, just call it the NASCAR channel and be done with it. But it's where the money is these days. Biggest sport in town, and huge money to go with it.

As for my personal opinions of NASCAR?

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NASCAR is, much like F1, all about "the show". And every effort will be made to make the "show" more entertaining, and get more people to pay money to watch. Some fo the contrivances they have come up with are absurd, but it keeps people watching. Every person from coast to coast can complain about how ridiculous is it to deliberately slow the field just so there can be an "exciting" finish. But they come back next week to watch it again. F1 isn't immune either, it just takes different forms.

As for which series I prefer? Well... It used to be F1 was the BIG one for me. But I have to admit, F1 has become really boring. I love F1, and fully admit that it is not as close competition as NASCAR. I love F1 because they let technology take the lead there. NASCAR on the other hand, uses some archaic technology that can't be found on a single road going car sold these days. And they badge the cars as models of street cars? When was the last time you saw a V8 powered, rear wheel drive Ford Taurus??? Outside of NASACR? Never. And the ironic twist of this "American" race series? The only model represented in the field that is ACTUALLY built in the US is the Toyota Camry.

But the technology in F1 has caused the sport to suffer as well. The capabilities of the cars are so great, that passing has become an exception, not the norm. That makes for an awfully boring race. It's more like a Time Trial these days. Qualifying is actually pretty interesting now. They keep making changes to the rules to make more competition, but they don't do the one thing that could REALLY make the racing good again. Get rid of the carbon-carbon brakes. Go back to metallic brakes, and you have overtaking under braking again. The braking zones will stretch out, and there will actually be some room, and some time, for drivers to DO something.
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Hurm... I seem to have rambled on a bit... Sorry 'bout that...

Anyway, Speed is the NASCAR channel because NASCAR has the money to make it so. As for other motorsports? WRC is available on my local "altitude" sports network, so I might imagine it was available elsewhere as well. But there's another can 'o worms too...

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championgt1   Speed channel   Oct 6 2007, 12:59 PM
porschecb   I think they broadcast what they think has the mos...   Oct 6 2007, 01:06 PM
ahdoman   Speed Channel?..... :confused: Oh, you mean the ...   Oct 6 2007, 01:13 PM
Chuck   On the one hand, I am happy that there is a channe...   Oct 6 2007, 01:15 PM
Cap'n Krusty   On the one hand, I am happy that there is a chann...   Oct 7 2007, 11:06 AM
effutuo101   Satalite TV does have a Nascar channel. WRC didn...   Oct 6 2007, 01:21 PM
Blood red 914-6gt   What channel is VS? Is this available through Comc...   Oct 6 2007, 01:26 PM
championgt1   What channel is VS? Is this available through Com...   Oct 6 2007, 01:33 PM
Blood red 914-6gt   Oh... I found it :D Hey, there is still one more F...   Oct 6 2007, 01:31 PM
effutuo101   Yep, China. Church of F1 starts at 10pm PST. On on...   Oct 6 2007, 01:48 PM
Blood red 914-6gt   I have never liked Alonso. Maybe it is just the wa...   Oct 6 2007, 01:54 PM
jaminM3   :agree: Interlagos in Brazil! I don't ...   Oct 6 2007, 02:17 PM
Blood red 914-6gt   :agree: Interlagos in Brazil! I don't...   Oct 6 2007, 02:52 PM
Spoke   I laugh about Honda and Toyota... :rotfl: F1 i...   Oct 6 2007, 03:21 PM
Scott Carlberg   maybe the NEW Motorsports Channel, The Racing Ne...   Oct 6 2007, 02:33 PM
lotus_65   oh you mean the "unique pinks" channel? ...   Oct 6 2007, 06:44 PM
boxstr   If I remember correctly Speed was purchased by a N...   Oct 6 2007, 07:33 PM
BKLA   If I remember correctly Speed was purchased by a ...   Oct 8 2007, 02:55 PM
joeav8tor   I exercise while watching Speed...my classic car w...   Oct 7 2007, 10:01 AM
HAM Inc   If Lewis keeps winning in F1 he might just earn hi...   Oct 7 2007, 10:22 AM
lotus_65   nascar is a great example of marketing to the lowe...   Oct 7 2007, 11:25 AM
914rrr   nascar is a great example of marketing to the low...   Oct 7 2007, 09:02 PM
Blood red 914-6gt   "I'm not saying I wouldn't go fishin ...   Oct 7 2007, 11:45 AM
rdauenhauer   :headbanger: Big UP's to Casey! Think o...   Oct 7 2007, 05:00 PM
scotty b   :headbanger: Big UP's to Casey! Think ...   Oct 7 2007, 09:12 PM
blitZ   The only thing I watch on Speed is the F1 and Vict...   Oct 7 2007, 05:28 PM
BMartin914   The only thing I watch on Speed is the F1 and Vic...   Oct 7 2007, 08:41 PM
alpha434   That kid is so wicked cool. Since seeing that, I...   Oct 7 2007, 05:31 PM
SGB   Well that China F1 race was great (and so was peti...   Oct 7 2007, 09:26 PM
rdauenhauer   Farfegnugen :confused: B)-->
Vacca Rabite   NASCAR is the predominant motor sport in the US, b...   Oct 8 2007, 12:02 PM
championgt1   NASCAR is the predominant motor sport in the US, ...   Oct 8 2007, 12:52 PM
Blood red 914-6gt   NASCAR is the predominant motor sport in the US, ...   Oct 8 2007, 03:04 PM
Vacca Rabite   I am going to have to respectfully disagree with ...   Oct 8 2007, 04:50 PM
Blood red 914-6gt   :( I think you may be right about the soccer analo...   Oct 8 2007, 05:02 PM
Thack   The reason for the odd hours for F1 is the time it...   Oct 8 2007, 05:29 PM
BMartin914   As many people as there are that are fans of F1, L...   Oct 8 2007, 09:30 PM
Thack   As many people as there are that are fans of F1, ...   Oct 9 2007, 09:45 AM
SLITS   I prefer "Swamp Buggy Racing" .... the o...   Oct 9 2007, 10:05 AM
jhadler   Yup, I agree. I can't stand the proliferation ...   Oct 9 2007, 12:11 PM
kart54   Let's see, for all you F1, Cart and IRL Fans. ...   Oct 9 2007, 12:59 PM
Scott Carlberg   Villenueve may have said "to race with the be...   Oct 9 2007, 05:22 PM
Vacca Rabite   When the regulars routinely complain about the 2 ...   Oct 10 2007, 08:58 AM
turboman808   As I am learning all to well it's not about br...   Oct 9 2007, 06:40 PM
scotty b   As I am learning all to well it's not about b...   Oct 9 2007, 07:27 PM
woobn8r   I think the France family realizes that there are ...   Oct 10 2007, 09:50 AM
Thack   What about the alleged planned finishes in NASCAR ...   Oct 10 2007, 10:31 AM
toomanyinkc   I remember well when it was SpeedVision, as do the...   Oct 10 2007, 12:17 PM
andys   Speed Channel: A whole evening of back-to-back epi...   Oct 10 2007, 12:35 PM
Blood red 914-6gt   Speed Channel: A whole evening of back-to-back ep...   Oct 10 2007, 01:06 PM
rdauenhauer   What a joke not only do the teams struggle to con...   Oct 10 2007, 03:46 PM
jgara962   I rarely even check to see what's on Speed any...   Oct 10 2007, 04:24 PM
beech4rd   Nascar does not own Speed. It's a subsidiary ...   Oct 10 2007, 06:22 PM
rdauenhauer   Speed channel sucks! That said, Im glad I have...   Oct 10 2007, 07:41 PM
woobn8r   I suppose since F1 in Canada is carried by TSN (Th...   Oct 10 2007, 07:50 PM
championgt1   Last Sundays programming. 19 straight hours of Pim...   Nov 30 2010, 10:58 PM
1968Cayman   Stopped watching it as soon as they partnered with...   Nov 30 2010, 11:57 PM
scotty b   I thing 3 years qualifies   Dec 1 2010, 10:24 AM
BigDBass   I've been watching HD Theatre infinitely more ...   Dec 1 2010, 05:00 PM
Drums66   ...I look at some of the stuff(speed channel) :pop...   Dec 1 2010, 05:34 PM
speed metal army   Nascar...The lowest common denominator rule....   Dec 1 2010, 09:20 PM
race914   It's Dec 6th about 4:15 PDT. Just turned on S...   Dec 6 2010, 06:19 PM
championgt1   It's Dec 6th about 4:15 PDT. Just turned on ...   Dec 6 2010, 10:40 PM
Cheapsnake   Roadracing - Too dumb for opera, too smart for NAS...   Dec 6 2010, 06:31 PM
'73-914kid   For some reason they are playing Aussie V8 Superca...   Dec 6 2010, 07:03 PM


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