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| flippa |
Oct 30 2007, 08:24 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,179 Joined: 7-May 07 From: Boston, MA Member No.: 7,720 Region Association: North East States |
I went to get the title for my car today at the registry. I will admit that it has been years since I have been there to register and/or get a title for an older car.
The woman at the counter told me that Massachusetts no longer assess the sales tax on the sales price of the car as too many people were cheating the system. The sales tax would be based on the car's book value. She left to go & look up my car's value. I thought to myself, "it's 37 years old, how much could the assessed value really be?" I was shocked when she returned & told me that the car had a value of $8,900, and the tax would be 5 percent of that value, or $445. WTF????? I told her that I was surprized, stating that it is a 37 year old restoration project. I asked nicely if she was sure about the value. I explained that I had the bare bones 1970 4 cylinder car, not the 6 (no need to piss her off, she is going to have a part in deciding how much I will be paying). After looking up the value again, she came back & asked if $5,400 was better. What could I say? I was "saving" $175. Walked out with my new title and several hundred dollars less in my checking account. How do the Department of Motor Vehicles / Registrys determine the value of the cars? Is it the same value that an insurance company would be using? Who determines these values? I know the 914's are increasing in value, but $8,900???? What is my 914 really worth? |
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| jasons |
Oct 31 2007, 10:34 AM
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Jackstand Extraordinaire ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,011 Joined: 19-August 04 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 2,573 Region Association: None |
Thats a total rip off. In AZ they use a pro-rated formula based on the original MSRP to calculate registration. Every year the taxable portion of the registration goes down until its $0. Sales tax is assessed at the dealers, not the MVD. Private party car deals == no sales tax. My old cars cost about $25 annually for registration, my newer cars (5 and 7 years old) cost a couple hundred. Title transfers are like $10.
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| mskala |
Oct 31 2007, 11:07 AM
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This is interesting stuff. I don't remember getting reamed on mine, but the last times I bought a car in mass were '92 and '99 when this type of thing was not in place.
Still, if you buy a junker or something obviously not a 'good condition' vehicle, there is probably a way around that. What is even more screwed up is the excise tax system, where every year you'll get a bill for I believe $25/1000 of their 'valuation' of the car. They have my '6 valued at $750. Also it looks like new or newer cars go down in value over 5 years but then seem to stop (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
flippa How much is my rust-bucket really worth? Oct 30 2007, 08:24 PM
Danny_Ocean Welcome to Taxachussets!
Are you sure there ... Oct 30 2007, 08:58 PM
John I hope she at least bought you dinner first or cal... Oct 30 2007, 09:03 PM
flippa Taxachusetts is right! They stick it to us re... Oct 30 2007, 09:11 PM
flippa No dinner & don't expect the call tomorrow... Oct 30 2007, 09:15 PM
Root_Werks WA is the same way with cars and "assessessed... Oct 30 2007, 09:36 PM
my928s4
WA is the same way with cars and "assessesse... Nov 3 2007, 12:04 PM
brer wow, i'm surprised that could even be legal.
... Oct 30 2007, 09:52 PM
stateofidleness here in texas, show a receipt (in my case my paypa... Oct 30 2007, 09:56 PM
ejm According to the Registry webpage
I'm pretty... Oct 30 2007, 10:02 PM
flesburg I have lived in IL, NJ, MN, GA, OH, VA, and MO.
V... Oct 30 2007, 10:18 PM
type47
VA was the worst, with an annual property tax of... Oct 31 2007, 09:05 AM
WyKev In Colorado, just show a reciept. In Wyoming, the... Oct 30 2007, 10:55 PM
plymouth37 My registration is 35 bucks a year for standard re... Nov 2 2007, 01:29 PM
rick 918-S I had that happen to me once here in MN. when I tr... Oct 31 2007, 12:09 AM
Cevan I just titled/registered mine in Mass in August. ... Oct 31 2007, 08:31 AM
rhcb914 Dude that sux! Looks like they took the value... Oct 31 2007, 09:14 AM
flippa Thanks for the NADA link. At least I know where t... Oct 31 2007, 10:21 AM
Blood red 914-6gt If you were to get in a wreck you could proove you... Oct 31 2007, 11:03 AM
davep Total ripoff! That is more than the car origin... Oct 31 2007, 11:19 AM
flippa I don't know when they changed the rules, but ... Oct 31 2007, 11:36 AM
Danny_Ocean
Taxachussets is right. The State has us paying f... Nov 1 2007, 01:08 AM
JOE M I moved from Ma to N.H a few years ago so I rememb... Oct 31 2007, 11:42 AM
dinomium They do the same thing here. To many forged bills ... Oct 31 2007, 02:56 PM
Thack Why do states charge sale tax for new car value wh... Oct 31 2007, 03:00 PM
Gint Thanks for the NADA link. Wow. The state made me... Oct 31 2007, 07:06 PM
pfierb On a private sale In Connecticut the DMV charges t... Oct 31 2007, 07:52 PM
championgt1 I just recently purchased a 94 ford f150 truck for... Oct 31 2007, 08:27 PM
flippa Great to see all the other Massholes out here (lov... Oct 31 2007, 09:59 PM
TC.356 Same thing happened to me at the Plymouth registry... Nov 1 2007, 08:02 AM![]() ![]() |
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