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| toon1 |
May 17 2007, 07:31 PM
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I've been working on retrofitting newer fuel injectors for the 914. My goal was to find an injector that can utilize as many of the stock parts as possible.
I came up with a inj. off a 96 forn escort 1.8l motor. One comment is needed, this will only work with an aftermarket FI system s these inj. are HIGH inpedence. This setup gives the ability to use higher fuel pressure, 44psi . It has a lower flow rate than the stock inj.. so the pulse widths will be longer and should give a little better idle quality. these are disc style rather than pintle( stock). fuel atomization will be much better giving a cleaner, more efficiant burn. The length of the inj. where shorter than stock so I added an O ring to make up the difference. The plastic tips are different ,I cut them off and put the tip of the stock inj. on the new inj., fit perfect. now the stock tip O ring can be used. the fuel rail was machined to tolerance for the top O ring seal. And I made a bracket to support the fuel rail from vibration and also keeping it from popping off the top of the inj. Here's the setup assembled. enjoy Attached image(s)
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| JeffBowlsby |
Nov 26 2007, 09:14 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses & Beekeeper ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,106 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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I thought Dave Hunts problems mostly related to MS inability to properly deal with fuel metering during deceleration?
Unfortunately, stock 914 FI harnesses are not capable of being used for these PEFI systems even with significant modifications. The circuitry requirements are completely different. I completely concur with most of Jakes points, SDS is a great solution for most 914 owners and I would choose it over MS anyday. But please, keep it simple...most 914 owners just need a simple D-jet/L-jet replacement, which does not require ignition control. Fuel-only is sufficient, the more complex, the more that can break. Only get ingition control if it is a necessity. SDS is to be commended for providing a basic harness, but their harness is not a very good solution for the 914s engine bay layout or for long-term serviceability. Plan to spend a significant amount of time/budget on the harness design and fabrication if you want a durable and reliable installation. Think about an optimum 914 engine bay layout, EMI-issues/grounding/shielding, durable connections, and protecting the wires and connections form heat and contamination. |
toon1 FI retrofit May 17 2007, 07:31 PM
toon1 more May 17 2007, 07:32 PM
toon1 one more May 17 2007, 07:33 PM
jimkelly toon1 you are the man - keep us posted as to perfo... May 17 2007, 08:07 PM
BMXerror Who did the machining? Looks good.
Mark D. May 17 2007, 08:28 PM
toon1 Thank's, I did all the machining, I'm not ... May 17 2007, 08:38 PM
yarin Great stuff! Thanks for posting pics!
I... May 19 2007, 09:41 PM
toon1
Great stuff! Thanks for posting pics!
I... May 20 2007, 01:16 AM
swl I really like the manifold you built. I know we d... May 20 2007, 06:07 AM
toon1
I really like the manifold you built. I know we ... May 20 2007, 09:42 AM
swl
If you could design a cheap, and easy way to us... May 20 2007, 12:47 PM
brer :clap: I'm impressed.
Keep us posted on yo... May 20 2007, 09:11 PM
Mueller nice job.....
for "brand" new Ford (and... May 21 2007, 03:46 AM
yarin
nice job.....
for "brand" new Ford (an... May 21 2007, 07:14 AM
greybeard50 This is exactly what I was contemplating for my T4... May 21 2007, 07:57 AM
MecGen Hey Thumbs Up ! :clap:
Thanx for saving a l... May 21 2007, 08:03 AM
type11969 5.slow injectors work too and can be readily found... May 21 2007, 08:24 AM
Dominic Nice work! :beer2:
I'm interested to... May 21 2007, 08:53 AM
toon1
This is exactly what I was contemplating for my T... May 21 2007, 10:28 AM
yarin Hey Keith,
Sorry to dig up this old thread, but I... Nov 24 2007, 12:03 AM
toon1 I did some calculations with the ford escort inj. ... Nov 24 2007, 12:35 AM
yarin
I did some calculations with the ford escort inj.... Nov 24 2007, 11:40 AM
Carrera916 Hey Toon,
it looks real good and i'm doing th... Nov 24 2007, 12:36 AM
toon1
Hey Toon,
it looks real good and i'm doing t... Nov 24 2007, 12:56 AM
Carrera916 Yeah, your set up sounds good and yes, my AAR will... Nov 24 2007, 01:59 AM
toon1 If you are looking to keep things looking stock, D... Nov 24 2007, 09:12 AM
yarin I merged two databases of info to help others sele... Nov 24 2007, 02:04 PM
orange914 really impressive keith :trophy:
when your at the... Nov 24 2007, 03:40 PM
Jake Raby I have found that injectors operating over 80% dut... Nov 25 2007, 11:05 AM
jimkelly http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...c=772... Nov 25 2007, 11:42 AM
toon1 Hi guy's, I will try to catchup, I've been... Nov 25 2007, 07:48 PM
arvcube great info! i'm interested in how you... Nov 25 2007, 08:21 PM
toon1
great info! i'm interested in how you... Nov 25 2007, 08:37 PM
arvcube
The EDIS wheel is already...
Jake will have a... Nov 25 2007, 11:12 PM
toon1
The EDIS wheel is already...
Jake will have ... Nov 26 2007, 09:12 AM
Jake Raby
I don't like experimental things, unless thos... Nov 26 2007, 10:55 AM
toon1
I don't like experimental things, unless tho... Nov 26 2007, 11:07 AM
Jake Raby The main advantage of SDS was it is proven, well p... Nov 26 2007, 11:17 AM
toon1 what type of sensors does it have. Are they specif... Nov 26 2007, 11:56 AM
Jake Raby Yes, they are all GM excet the CHT which is Bosch.... Nov 26 2007, 01:48 PM
toon1 Good info.are you going 13:1 accross the board.
... Nov 26 2007, 04:57 PM
toon1 With the ignition system that the 914 provides, I ... Nov 26 2007, 11:09 PM
p914 I tried using high impedence injectors from a 89 v... Nov 26 2007, 11:29 PM
Jake Raby Were you using the low impedence resistor pack wit... Nov 27 2007, 12:09 AM
p914
Were you using the low impedence resistor pack wi... Nov 27 2007, 11:33 AM
toon1
I tried using high impedence injectors from a 89 ... Nov 27 2007, 11:33 AM
ottox914
SDS is to be commended for providing a basic harn... Nov 27 2007, 11:16 PM
Jake Raby I have never had an SDS harness issue either.. The... Nov 28 2007, 06:19 AM
DNHunt Ah yes, I remember that beast.
Dave Nov 28 2007, 07:38 AM
JmuRiz From looking at Jake and David Parsons' projec... Nov 28 2007, 12:34 PM
ottox914 Its not that hard, read things over 100 times, kno... Nov 28 2007, 01:16 PM
Jake Raby Looks like an EFI workshop is in order, or perhaps... Nov 28 2007, 01:33 PM
blitZ
Looks like an EFI workshop is in order, or perhap... Nov 29 2007, 07:34 AM
ottox914 Whats out of focus for you? Nov 29 2007, 09:06 AM
Jake Raby This sytatement from SDS' web page is perfect.... Nov 29 2007, 09:11 AM
ottox914
Its not that hard, read things over 100 times, kn... Nov 29 2007, 12:30 PM
Ray Warren
Its not that hard, read things over 100 times, k... Nov 29 2007, 04:15 PM
blitZ I know my current Djet injectors are triggered by ... Nov 29 2007, 01:05 PM
Jake Raby SDS uses signal from the negative side of the coil... Nov 29 2007, 03:51 PM![]() ![]() |
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