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> Roll bar and Engman question, Trying to decide
Joe Ricard
post Nov 26 2007, 05:47 AM
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Got my roll bar hoop the other day and fitted in the car. Works nice and sits just a tick above the targa bar.

Anyway I am going to put the forward diagonals from 4" below the curve of the hoop and have them end up 3-4 inches forward of the hand brake cut out.

I am also going to penetrate the fire wall and tie in the rear shock towers to the hoop.

is putting the Engman kit a good idea or would 16ga. scab plates under the bars at car connection points be enough. Remember lighter is better. Mainly concerned with stiffening the car for Autocross. at this point I wil never run Wheel to wheel racing in this car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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post Nov 29 2007, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(J P Stein @ Nov 29 2007, 12:12 PM) *

One other thing. The rear towers are NOT welded directly to the ends of the longs, but tied together with some sheet metal bits. I hear as rear spring rates rise, the towers can pop loose......that would suck. I saw some indications of that on the shitbox...minor, but not ignored.


Could you or someone post pics of this, or perhaps pics and where to look to see if this is a problem? With little arrows? While my car is not a red hot road racer like some of yours, it gets twisted a bit at the auto cross events I do. I have had a loud mystery klunk in what sounds to be the rt rear. Started when I lowered the car too much. I found front lower control arm hitting the tub. So I raised things up a bit, re-corner balanced things, raised the rear spring rates from 175 to 200, and went with a bigger front sway bar to keep things balanced. I still get the klunk, mainly at higher speeds with a sharp hit, like a pot hole or freeway expansion joint at 75 mph, although when the car is loaded laterally on the rt side at an auto cross, and I hit a bump in the pavement, I can hear it again, but not nearly as often as I hear it on the way to and from the event. I hate to think I'm tearing my car up, but I've checked the rear shocks, both are good, and checked every bolt I can back there, both sides, all tight, but still have the klunk.

Sorry. Ending hijack. Back to discussions on cages.
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Joe Ricard   Roll bar and Engman question   Nov 26 2007, 05:47 AM
DNHunt   Joe This is just my observation. I installed an E...   Nov 26 2007, 11:56 AM
Krieger914   I remember many people in the past compaining (wor...   Nov 27 2007, 08:53 AM
Joe Ricard   Because I plan on cutting into the rear firewall a...   Nov 27 2007, 08:58 AM
J P Stein   Why not kill 3 birds..... See the pic. Under the d...   Nov 27 2007, 05:57 PM
URY914   :popcorn: Five replies.... :confused:   Nov 27 2007, 08:28 PM
Joe Ricard   Maybe if one of ya posted a picture of your car...   Nov 28 2007, 06:18 PM
jhadler   I was thinking about where one would best want to ...   Nov 29 2007, 11:09 AM
J P Stein   No, Josh, you're right, but verticle deflectio...   Nov 29 2007, 02:12 PM
Joe Ricard   One problem we discovered on a certain course with...   Nov 29 2007, 06:23 PM
jhadler   One problem we discovered on a certain course wit...   Nov 29 2007, 06:27 PM
grantsfo   One problem we discovered on a certain course wit...   Nov 30 2007, 06:05 PM
ottox914   One other thing. The rear towers are NOT welded d...   Nov 29 2007, 07:36 PM
J P Stein   Dumb shit me didn't take any pics "before...   Nov 29 2007, 10:19 PM
McMark   I would expect a car with only a roll hoop and for...   Dec 2 2007, 11:46 AM
Joe Ricard   Well at Saturday's Autocross I thought of Josh...   Dec 3 2007, 07:13 PM
J P Stein   entering in middle of 2nd and shifting at 5 grand...   Dec 4 2007, 11:16 AM
grantsfo   entering in middle of 2nd and shifting at 5 gran...   Dec 4 2007, 11:23 AM
Joe Ricard   Well I certainly am not going to spin a motor that...   Dec 4 2007, 11:50 AM
J P Stein   So, Joe........whatcha gonna do? Your season is ab...   Dec 6 2007, 09:11 PM
Joe Ricard   Right you are, Just tough to take that leap off t...   Dec 7 2007, 07:42 AM
ChrisNPDrider   Now if I jump to full tilt boogey race car it wil...   Dec 7 2007, 08:02 PM
grantsfo   Now if I jump to full tilt boogey race car it wi...   Dec 7 2007, 10:52 PM
J P Stein   Yeah, that is a problem, what do you do with a hot...   Dec 8 2007, 08:56 AM
drew365   My car has been a full track car for several years...   Dec 8 2007, 11:02 AM
Joe Ricard   Grant, just so happens I got approached to buy a r...   Dec 9 2007, 05:46 AM


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