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scotty b
post Dec 21 2007, 08:00 PM
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Long story short, I do a fair amount of light collision werk for a local used car lot. VERY reputable guys who usually deal in Mercedes Audis etc. They bought this 2003 Toyota Tacoma at an auction house in Pa. shipped it to Va and sold it. The new owner goes to get the oil changed and when the lift contacted the frame a chunk of " something " popped off to reveal a hole. I first proceed to look at that hole and eyeball the frame as a whole and noticed ALOT of odd shaped areas, as well as NO welds. These frame are nothing more than stamped C channels lap welded together so the welds are quite obvious. After the initial hole was opened up I proceeded to take a hammer to the rest of the frame. The holes were coverd with aluminum tape, bondo'd over then undercoated.The pictures will complete the rest of the story. BTW truck only has 51,000 miles on it. And yes there will be a lawsuit either towards the auction house or the dealer who ran it through there.


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post Dec 21 2007, 08:35 PM
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That is quite amazing. Toyota should be thrown in front of the bus for building a product that looks like that in 4 years.

I sold Toyotas for nearly 10 years from 79-89 and although this truck here has nothing to do with some of what I've seen, they screwed the customers for years.

From the early 70s Toyota was skirting an import tariff of 25% by bringing truck chassis without beds into the U.S. and that allowed them to be taxed as an unassembled vehicle at a rate of 4%(same as parts). They built a bed assembly plant in California(Long Beach, I believe) and shipped the beds to the various ports of entry around the U.S. You could go to any port and see thousands and thousands sitting out in the open in the salt air waiting for chassis. Since they did body changes every 4 years, there was little need to turn them over quickly. I'm sure the notoriously short life of their beds was influenced by this.

The tax law was changed in 1980 and our trucks went up $800 in a single day when they were only around $5,000. They didn't stop doing the process they had started. My 85 SR5 had a perfect driver's side frame and a gone-like-your-pictures curbside in 10 yrs. and had to do the bed after 4 years.

There is a possibility this truck could have spent some time under water, but the brake lines look surprisingly good in comparison with the other metal. Lots of hurricane vehicles around that time, my neighbor got a limited edition Toyota truck out of Florida that was mashed up really bad from trees and rolled over.
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scotty b   used car buyers BEWARE   Dec 21 2007, 08:00 PM
scotty b   :barf: Note in on pic the worst area is right whe...   Dec 21 2007, 08:03 PM
Beamer13   Wow!!! That's nuts!!! ...   Dec 21 2007, 08:08 PM
hwgunner   How does something like that happen to a newer car...   Dec 21 2007, 08:12 PM
jimtab   When was Katrina again......?????   Dec 21 2007, 08:17 PM
SirAndy   When was Katrina again......????? :agree: loo...   Dec 21 2007, 08:43 PM
mel reckling   When was Katrina again......????? :agree: lo...   Dec 21 2007, 08:51 PM
Headrage   Rust??? :blink:   Dec 21 2007, 08:22 PM
mel reckling   That is quite amazing. Toyota should be thrown in ...   Dec 21 2007, 08:35 PM
scotty b   Yeah, I would guess a flood car that was never iss...   Dec 21 2007, 08:53 PM
sixnotfour   I had a 1987 Carrera, got it cheap, I knew it had ...   Dec 21 2007, 09:15 PM
Beamer13   Come on now, I've lived in Wisconsin my entire...   Dec 21 2007, 09:16 PM
Dr Evil   That is common. Folks form one state get vehicles ...   Dec 22 2007, 01:38 AM
rhodyguy   a carfax on that truck might be interesting. salva...   Dec 22 2007, 09:43 AM
Gint   It's gotta be a katrina truck. Lots of that g...   Dec 22 2007, 09:48 AM
boxstr   That appears to be a plan and simple case of cover...   Dec 22 2007, 11:45 AM
Ferg   I agree that the frame damage is severe, but I hav...   Dec 22 2007, 03:15 PM
boxstr   Or a Merkur :rolleyes: Katrina cars are very easy...   Dec 22 2007, 03:47 PM
scotty b   I'm a little more suspect of the truck having ...   Dec 22 2007, 03:56 PM
mel reckling   Flood cars also usually have a smell about them, a...   Dec 22 2007, 04:09 PM
GWN7   Lots of Katrina cars floating around.....your not ...   Dec 22 2007, 04:11 PM
scotty b   Our guys actually bought 2 from this auction house...   Dec 22 2007, 04:15 PM


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