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> Let's talk about coil pack ignition, a grassroots CSOB build?
ahdoman
post Dec 4 2009, 11:00 AM
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Here's the deal; I started a thread over on the PP / 911 site on possibly using coil pack ignition instead of the traditional distributor and wires. In keeping with the 911 wine and cheese tradition it's gone high dollar, twin plug, race motor setups. (I should have known better than to try to get "shade tree mechanic" info from the "executive" class).

So, here's where I am so far and I'm hoping some of you can fill in the info here. Since most of you are on a budget like me I thought I'd get some more realistic answers over here.

There are several manufacturers of coils that fit on the top of the plugs (Audi, VW, Kawasaki, Denso, etc.). These are really cool because they also fit down into the sheet metal of the 4's but in my case the valve covers and headsof the /6. It also means the elimination of plug wires and puts a nice strong spark right at the plug. What I am trying to understand is the other parts that are needed to complete a system. I know there are some good manufacturers of pre-fabed solutions out there but they are $$$$$$$$$$ and still require plug wires to be run from a central coil pack location.

Here's a couple of questions;

1) I realize that the individual coil packs will need to be triggered. What are the options to doing this and how are they wired?
2) What kind of a "brain" needs to be involved with a system like this? What does it need to do?

Here's an example of the type of coil pack I'm looking at...

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And here's an example installed...

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See how neat that is? I realize wires will still need to be run but they can be much smaller since they no longer need to carry the voltage from the coil.
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ahdoman   Let's talk about coil pack ignition   Dec 4 2009, 11:00 AM
underthetire   Look up the diyautotune site. Even if you don...   Dec 4 2009, 11:13 AM
Mark Henry   Already told you that at PP..... There are a few ...   Dec 4 2009, 11:18 AM
Mark Henry   One thing you might want to do search on: how to t...   Dec 4 2009, 11:30 AM
904svo   They are the vw coil packs, I'm using them on ...   Dec 4 2009, 11:51 AM
ahdoman   Mark - You're info on the PP site has been the...   Dec 4 2009, 11:51 AM
Solo914   A guy in my area has taken the MS idea and ran wit...   Dec 4 2009, 12:00 PM
904svo   Mark - You're info on the PP site has been th...   Dec 4 2009, 08:06 PM
Mark Henry   I sold a SDS system (I don't anymore) set up w...   Dec 4 2009, 12:02 PM
ClayPerrine   I actually ran a GM waste spark ignition on a 2.0L...   Dec 4 2009, 12:40 PM
SirAndy   I would use a trigger wheel on the pulley end of ...   Dec 4 2009, 01:33 PM
Mark Henry   I would use a trigger wheel on the pulley end of...   Dec 4 2009, 02:04 PM
SirAndy   Trigger mount's and wheels should always be b...   Dec 4 2009, 02:11 PM
Mark Henry   The ford EDIS is what MS is based on. Not quite as...   Dec 4 2009, 01:32 PM
ahdoman   Kyle - Good info thanks. I put a call into them. ...   Dec 4 2009, 01:46 PM
turboman808   I got this planned down the road. 2 years more th...   Dec 4 2009, 02:36 PM
edwin   i know you want the simplicity of running coil on ...   Dec 4 2009, 06:54 PM
Mark Henry   Yep you don't need a ford EDIS, just that was ...   Dec 5 2009, 06:24 AM
jmill   This is probably off topic but a friend is curren...   Dec 5 2009, 10:31 AM
charliew   What little I know about this is: e85 runs cooler ...   Dec 5 2009, 12:55 PM
stownsen914   Megasquirt can supposedly be set up to run COP (no...   Dec 8 2009, 01:31 PM
Elliot Cannon   Will this significantly improve your engines perfo...   Dec 5 2009, 01:36 PM
J P Stein   Will this significantly improve your engines perf...   Dec 8 2009, 09:39 AM
ahdoman   Will this significantly improve your engines per...   Dec 8 2009, 10:52 AM
charliew   Look under the hood of any new car and if you see ...   Dec 5 2009, 02:09 PM
kg6dxn   The hardest part of an EDIS system is the crank tr...   Dec 5 2009, 09:29 PM
ahdoman   Thanks for all the good info. It's really amaz...   Dec 7 2009, 11:35 PM
Phoenix-MN   On the MS site they seem to indicate that MS wil...   Dec 8 2009, 06:08 AM
ahdoman   Thanks Paul. I just found that thread last night. ...   Dec 8 2009, 09:24 AM
Mike D.   Steve, let me know when you get this figured out. ...   Dec 8 2009, 01:20 PM
underthetire   Guess it's time to chime in again. I don't...   Dec 8 2009, 01:34 PM


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