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> Cylinder 4 not firing- HELP!
tornik550
post Jul 28 2010, 08:29 PM
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Over the past three years, I have been working on my 73 914. The majority of the car has been rebuilt (except he body). I recently got the engine working well enough to drive. I have been driving the car to work the past two days. The engine seemed to run great. I am still fine tuning the carbs though. The engine is freshly rebuilt with about 200miles on it. It is a 2.2.7 l. The only thing that wasn't rebuilt was the heads (long story why).

Tonight, I made a few carb changes, drove the car around for about 15 minutes.. The car seemed to run great but idled a slightly rough. When I got back to my garage, I decided to re-adjust the idle mixture screws. I started with cylinder 4. I didn't notice much of a difference when playing with the screw. I noticed that there was a lot of cold condensation on the manifold for that cylinder. With the engine running, I put my hand over the trumpet on each cylinder one at a time. 1,2,3 caused the engine to almost stall, 4 made no change. I checked to make sure that I was getting spark to cylinder 4- I was. I checked to make sure that I was getting fuel to cyl 4- I was. I took out the spark plug and it had a bunch of black soot. I checked the others and they were a nice brown color. I felt the exhaust pipe for cyl 4 and it was about the same temp as the other pipes. I did a compression test and it read 90 on cyl 4. In my panicked state, I did not check the other cylinders.

I had previously gotten compression tests on cyl 4 at around 150. The problem is that I think that I may have screwed up tonight's test. When I did get the 150 on previous tests, I did the comp test properly. This time, I took the spark plug out, engine hot, put in the compression gauge, turned the ignition for about 4 seconds. Read the gauge- 90. Repeated- 90 again. I was panicking and tried to think of what the problem could be. Decided in my haste that I should check valve lash. I got the cover off and decided that I should stop and think about things overnight.

Any guesses?

Problems that I can see- compression test done improperly but would this make that much of a difference? Also, I did not check the other cylinders. Even if the compression was good- why wouldn't the cylinder fire or is it firing but just not well? Could this all be because of a tight exhaust valve? Or is all of this just wishful thinking. I suppose that bad rings are an option but they are brand new so why? I also supposed that I could have a bad exhaust valve.

Argh- since I just got my engine were I like it- I really hope that I just did something stupid and that there is not a big problem that will take the car off the road for a while.
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tornik550   Cylinder 4 not firing- HELP!   Jul 28 2010, 08:29 PM
type2man   I'd check the idle jet on the 4 cylinder.....p...   Jul 28 2010, 08:50 PM
pilothyer   When you say you had good spark to cylinder (4) di...   Jul 28 2010, 08:50 PM
tornik550   When you say you had good spark to cylinder (4) d...   Jul 28 2010, 08:55 PM
phatnine11   i would swap a good spark plug into #4. Just one q...   Jul 28 2010, 09:02 PM
tornik550   i would swap a good spark plug into #4. Just one ...   Jul 28 2010, 09:07 PM
phatnine11   i would swap a good spark plug into #4. Just one...   Jul 28 2010, 09:15 PM
pilothyer   I'm not real familiar with that device, but if...   Jul 28 2010, 09:07 PM
Vacca Rabite   When you put your hand over the horn, did it try t...   Jul 28 2010, 09:25 PM
tornik550   When you put your hand over the horn, did it try ...   Jul 28 2010, 09:34 PM
Vacca Rabite   plugged idle jet does not mean that you are not ge...   Jul 28 2010, 09:40 PM
tornik550   plugged idle jet does not mean that you are not g...   Jul 28 2010, 09:52 PM
Vacca Rabite   Yes. And the fouling on the plug will also give w...   Jul 29 2010, 06:51 AM
tornik550   [quote name='Vacca Rabite' date='Jul 2...   Jul 29 2010, 07:26 AM
Vacca Rabite   Not that I can think of. Every time I have tuned ...   Jul 29 2010, 08:19 AM
tornik550   Here is an update on my situation. I went through...   Jul 29 2010, 09:44 PM
Vacca Rabite   HA! Should have told the neighbor to step off...   Jul 30 2010, 06:54 AM
tornik550   HA! Should have told the neighbor to step of...   Jul 30 2010, 07:17 AM
SGB   My simple brain wonders if the intake manifold on ...   Jul 30 2010, 07:44 AM
tornik550   My simple brain wonders if the intake manifold on...   Aug 1 2010, 07:20 PM
tornik550   I was frustrated so I decided to leave town for th...   Aug 1 2010, 07:14 PM
type2man   My simple brain wonders if the intake manifold o...   Aug 1 2010, 07:47 PM


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