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> Cylinder Head Temps, My Experience + lessons learned
rwilner
post Mar 12 2012, 07:01 AM
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I drove down to Chris Foley's shop to get his shift linkage installed this weekend. At the charlton plaza on I-90, I stopped to fill up. I usually put premium in the 914 but this time put regular in because it's what I put in my other cars and I was on autopilot. Oh well, I thought...let's see how she runs on 87, maybe I'm wasting my $$ on the good stuff.

Before the fillup, I was running between 300 and 325 F in 5th gear around 70-75 mph.

After the fillup, I was running between 380 and 400! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

I spent the rest of the trip in 4th gear at no less than 3500 rpm to try and keep the head temps down. When I got to Chris' shop, we put the car in the air and drained out 5 gallons. I replaced them with 93 octane before getting on the highway for the ride home. My cyl head temps were back down to 310-350 for the return trip.

Here's what I learned:
  • A cylinder head temp sensor and gauge are critical to know what's happening in your engine and should be on everyone's short list. Without it I would never have known of the dangerous operating conditions for the engine. The aircraft spruce gauge/probe are short $$ and a quick install.
  • The state of tune has a major impact on running temps (duh). I am still tuning my car with the microsquirt and it's clear I have work to do.
  • Higher octane gas makes your car run cooler.
As always YMMV but thought I'd share my experience.
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rwilner   Cylinder Head Temps   Mar 12 2012, 07:01 AM
Racer Chris   I'll add a data point to your observations. Ye...   Mar 12 2012, 10:33 AM
Vacca Rabite   Oh well, I thought...let's see how she runs o...   Mar 12 2012, 10:36 AM
rwilner   What kind of compression are you running, and wha...   Mar 12 2012, 06:38 PM
r_towle   Observation It was warmer on the way down than on ...   Mar 12 2012, 07:42 PM
rwilner   Observation It was warmer on the way down than on...   Mar 13 2012, 06:48 AM
mrbubblehead   Observation It was warmer on the way down than o...   Mar 13 2012, 06:53 AM
rwilner   rich do you have an innovate a/f gauge you are ha...   Mar 13 2012, 12:49 PM
mrbubblehead   rich do you have an innovate a/f gauge you are h...   Mar 13 2012, 12:53 PM
rwilner   i had the same problem, and did the exact same st...   Mar 13 2012, 01:08 PM
mrbubblehead   i had the same problem, and did the exact same s...   Mar 13 2012, 01:09 PM
rwilner   no prob, i had to get mine to work, i was damned...   Mar 13 2012, 01:23 PM
r_towle   yah but...... I read innovate can send everything...   Mar 13 2012, 01:04 PM
rwilner   yah but...... I read innovate can send everythin...   Mar 14 2012, 07:34 AM
r_towle   yah but...... I read innovate can send everythi...   Mar 14 2012, 11:07 AM
rwilner   [quote name='rwilner' post='1645554' date='Mar 14...   Mar 14 2012, 12:33 PM
michael7810   Rich- I've been wanting to add a CHT gauge for...   Mar 13 2012, 02:02 PM
rwilner   Rich- I've been wanting to add a CHT gauge fo...   Mar 14 2012, 07:15 AM
rwilner   Also, if you have a few more bucks and want to go ...   Mar 14 2012, 07:20 AM
ww914   Hey Rich Your post is very timely with me putting...   Mar 14 2012, 09:34 AM
rwilner   Hey Rich Your post is very timely with me puttin...   Mar 14 2012, 12:31 PM
Racer Chris   Not sure we need egt info like you would on a Ly...   Mar 14 2012, 12:31 PM
ww914   EGT is definitely not much value on a street car....   Mar 14 2012, 01:45 PM
Racer Chris   Chris Are you suggesting a single AFR meter and ...   Mar 14 2012, 03:19 PM
Elliot Cannon   Chris Are you suggesting a single AFR meter and...   Mar 14 2012, 03:50 PM
jsayre914   With a 4 channel CHT its easy to identify and re...   Mar 14 2012, 04:11 PM
Racer Chris   [quote name='Racer Chris' post='1645828' date='Ma...   Mar 15 2012, 02:50 AM
76-914   FYI.......the a/c cht's purpose is to set the ...   Mar 14 2012, 02:15 PM
ww914   FYI.......the a/c cht's purpose is to set the...   Mar 14 2012, 03:16 PM
Elliot Cannon   FYI.......the a/c cht's purpose is to set th...   Mar 14 2012, 03:48 PM
falconfp2001   If you can source a CHT Gauge that will take 4 cha...   Mar 15 2012, 12:04 AM
jsayre914   If you can source a CHT Gauge that will take 4 ch...   Mar 15 2012, 10:42 AM
McMark   I like this one. It's got 4 CHT + oil pressur...   Mar 15 2012, 09:23 AM
Racer Chris   I like It's got 4 CHT + oil pressure + oil t...   Mar 15 2012, 10:24 AM
rwilner   The criteria which make a gauge useful in an airc...   Mar 15 2012, 10:30 AM
Elliot Cannon   The criteria which make a gauge useful in an air...   Mar 15 2012, 10:43 AM
Racer Chris   [quote name='rwilner' post='1646311' date='Mar 15...   Mar 15 2012, 11:49 AM
rwilner   [quote name='rwilner' post='1646311' date='Mar 15...   Mar 15 2012, 11:51 AM
McMark   I like It's got 4 CHT + oil pressure + oil ...   Mar 15 2012, 12:10 PM
falconfp2001   [quote name='Racer Chris' post='1646304' date='Ma...   Mar 15 2012, 12:27 PM
ww914   ......or this one. Simple and cheap. http://www....   Mar 15 2012, 09:57 AM
Racer Chris   ......or this one. Simple and cheap. http://www...   Mar 15 2012, 10:02 AM
rwilner   [quote name='ww914' post='1646271' date='Mar 15 2...   Mar 15 2012, 10:37 AM
ww914   Rich The Westach CHT KIT that I saw was a total o...   Mar 15 2012, 01:31 PM
rwilner   Rich The Westach CHT KIT that I saw was a total ...   Mar 16 2012, 07:06 AM
jsayre914   I am learning sooo much from this thread. I have d...   Mar 15 2012, 01:57 PM
falconfp2001   I am learning sooo much from this thread. I have ...   Mar 15 2012, 02:04 PM
rwilner   :agree: Very Nice. Besides being able to monito...   Mar 16 2012, 07:04 AM
Rand   Any chance this view will automatically switch the...   Mar 15 2012, 03:31 PM
biosurfer1   Any chance this view will automatically switch th...   Mar 15 2012, 03:42 PM
Rand   Very cool! Thanks Brett. I would definitely se...   Mar 15 2012, 03:47 PM
jsayre914   I called Dave @ Aircraftspruce, and told him we ma...   Mar 15 2012, 04:27 PM
jsayre914   I forgot we need sensors too, so I called Harold @...   Mar 15 2012, 04:46 PM
falconfp2001   I forgot we need sensors too, so I called Harold ...   Mar 15 2012, 08:50 PM
falconfp2001   I forgot we need sensors too, so I called Harold...   Mar 15 2012, 08:51 PM
rwilner   I forgot we need sensors too, so I called Harold...   Mar 16 2012, 07:20 AM
Racer Chris   Don't forget we're going to need about 40...   Mar 16 2012, 07:30 AM
rwilner   Don't forget we're going to need about 4...   Mar 16 2012, 07:50 AM
rwilner   [quote name='Racer Chris' post='1647054' date='Ma...   Mar 16 2012, 08:25 AM
jsayre914   Don't forget we're going to need about 4...   Mar 16 2012, 10:11 AM
ww914   Funny how these things work. Good job Joseph.   Mar 15 2012, 07:10 PM
Racer Chris   Apart from finding a good location for the large f...   Mar 16 2012, 05:04 AM
ww914   This all sounds really exciting, but aside from ha...   Mar 16 2012, 09:36 AM
Racer Chris   This all sounds really exciting, but aside from h...   Mar 16 2012, 01:30 PM
jsayre914   I was told the J style was 1/2 percent more accura...   Mar 16 2012, 10:13 AM
rwilner   I was told the J style was 1/2 percent more accur...   Mar 16 2012, 10:50 AM
jsayre914   so, so far no go. I have heard from both vendors ...   Mar 16 2012, 12:55 PM
falconfp2001   so, so far no go. I have heard from both vendors...   Mar 16 2012, 01:36 PM
jsayre914   I am satisfied now. I cant get the price any lower...   Mar 16 2012, 03:52 PM
grogthegreat   Does anyone know if this kit could be used with Me...   Mar 18 2012, 08:40 PM
rwilner   Does anyone know if this kit could be used with M...   Mar 19 2012, 06:21 AM
shuie   Those of you who have spent time on the Pelican te...   Mar 18 2012, 09:03 PM
brant   Those of you who have spent time on the Pelican t...   Mar 20 2012, 08:04 AM
grogthegreat   Unfortunately me heads no longer have the stock CH...   Mar 19 2012, 07:45 PM
rwilner   Unfortunately me heads no longer have the stock C...   Mar 20 2012, 07:12 AM


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