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post Mar 10 2014, 05:34 PM
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I seem to constantly bounce back and forth between carbs and EFI.

I used to be really pleased with the fuel economy of my 4-cylinder with carbs. I really couldn't complain about 30mpg on a carb'd 2.1L type 4. Well, with gas prices going back up, and having installed the 6, I'm getting a whopping 16-18 at freeway cruise, which is unacceptable for me. The motor is a 2.7 built to RS specs with S cams, and it really does go quick, but either the jetting is off, throttle shafts are worn (I know for a fact they are based upon carbon deposits on the butterflies), or I'm suffering from the fact that the 40's were never really meant for a 2.7, so the transition circuit is hugely rich.. becasue fuel mileage is awful.

Anyways, I have this vision in my head of removing the fuel lines, closing off all of the unnecessary ports in the carbs sans the air bleed screws, and essentially converting them into ITB's.

I would adapt a TPS onto one of the throttle shafts, plumb the intake manifolds for vacuum for the MAP, and then weld in injector bosses/bungs which are readily available, and cheap, from various websites for the standard 14mm bosch style o-ring sealing injector. There would be no permanent modifications to the carbs, just to to the intake manifolds.

Am crazy for even trying to attempt to start collecting parts for something like this? The hope is to not spend a whole lot of money on everything, and keep it bare bones with no ignition control, just fuel control.

Brain would be megasquirt, not sure what version yet, but I was also tossing around the idea of microsquirt. I'm not sure what would be the best avenue for something like this.

Any thoughts on this? Don't do it, don't waste your time? etc.
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'73-914kid   EFI conversion thread   Mar 10 2014, 05:34 PM
914_teener   Why not MFI?   Mar 10 2014, 06:17 PM
sixnotfour   Why not MFI? you cant tune it from a laptop..   Mar 10 2014, 06:20 PM
sixnotfour   If your still thinking of selling , don't do i...   Mar 10 2014, 06:19 PM
rsrguy3   Look up Al's Retro cool high butterfly setup o...   Mar 10 2014, 07:17 PM
JmuRiz   Look up Al's Retro cool high butterfly setup ...   Mar 10 2014, 08:32 PM
rudedude   Pray tell, tell us more!   Mar 10 2014, 07:35 PM
Mark Henry   Actually If I don't like my fuel mileage I may...   Mar 10 2014, 08:48 PM
'73-914kid   Actually If I don't like my fuel mileage I ma...   Apr 28 2015, 11:13 PM
'73-914kid   The plan for this was to be a cheap way of going I...   Mar 10 2014, 09:02 PM
rsrguy3   Nathan, He gave me a parts list. I'll be co...   Mar 10 2014, 09:17 PM
jpnovak   Are your heads drilled for MFI injectors? I make ...   Mar 10 2014, 09:31 PM
sixnotfour   :agree: my above TB's have injector ports, cab...   Mar 10 2014, 09:44 PM
rick 918-S   The webers are worth way more that you could build...   Mar 10 2014, 10:52 PM
colingreene   Pm me, i have the unique ability to probably help ...   Mar 11 2014, 01:19 PM
Mike Bellis   EFI is awesome! If you have it properly tuned,...   Apr 29 2015, 08:15 AM
'73-914kid   I actually have possible access to a mostly free P...   Apr 29 2015, 08:45 AM
bigkensteele   I am in the same boat with my 2.7. I have all the...   Apr 29 2015, 08:55 AM
aircooledtechguy   MS1 can handle spark, and it's upgradable to w...   Apr 29 2015, 09:27 AM
toon1   MS1 can handle spark, and it's upgradable to ...   Apr 29 2015, 10:06 AM
'73-914kid   MS1 can handle spark, and it's upgradable to...   Apr 29 2015, 10:21 AM
toon1   [quote name='toon1' post='2180408' date='Apr 29 2...   Apr 29 2015, 10:51 AM
mepstein   [quote name='toon1' post='2180408' date='Apr 29 2...   Apr 29 2015, 12:17 PM
JmuRiz   I'm also a huge fan of MS.....BUT....instea...   Apr 29 2015, 12:48 PM
toon1   I'm also a huge fan of MS.....BUT....inste...   Apr 29 2015, 01:39 PM
worn   MS1 can handle spark, and it's upgradable to...   Apr 29 2015, 03:16 PM
bigkensteele   MS1 can handle spark, and it's upgradable to ...   Apr 29 2015, 12:15 PM
worn   I seem to constantly bounce back and forth betwee...   Apr 29 2015, 01:16 PM
toon1   I seem to constantly bounce back and forth betwe...   Apr 29 2015, 01:31 PM
worn   I respectfully disagree Can you elaborate? A...   Apr 29 2015, 03:19 PM
toon1   I respectfully disagree Can you elaborate? ...   Apr 29 2015, 04:51 PM
Mike Bellis   Ethan, if you want better fuel economy; loosen you...   Apr 29 2015, 06:52 PM
bfrymire   Hello, As I have done the conversion using the bi...   Apr 30 2015, 06:00 PM
JmuRiz   If you go the bitz route (or modify it for ms3) I ...   Apr 30 2015, 07:05 PM
bigkensteele   It may seem trivial to many, but my one remaining ...   Apr 30 2015, 08:30 PM
bfrymire   Hello Ken, Its really not an issue with the seria...   Apr 30 2015, 11:16 PM
JmuRiz   I agree, not all dongles are created equal, a qual...   May 1 2015, 08:22 AM
sixnotfour   http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/usb-to-...tudio...   May 3 2015, 02:35 AM


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