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> Engmans inner long stiffening kit, Or, Joe Buckle learns to weld
skline
post Apr 10 2005, 07:59 AM
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Spent the day over at Joe Buckles house yesterday. What I thought would only take me till around noon or so wound up taking 6 hours. Still, the end result is amazing. If you have any doubts as to whether your car is solid, you should get one of these kits and install it. There will be no doubt in your mind afterwards. I would suggest that you follow the directions that come with it. Jack the car up and put it on Jack stands at the 4 jack posts under the car to make it level. remove and clean the paint from the areas where you will be welding in the kit. If you are using a wirefeed welder, you want to make sure it is bare metal otherwise it will make it much more difficult when trying to get a contact for your arc. Check fit the kit and trim as needed till it fits perfect and all holes are on the existing metal. That is pretty important so check all the holes. Once the kits fits everywhere leave it in place and start welding each hole. Start with the ones on the outside edges and do one or two on each end and then one or two on each end on the bottom and then fill in all the inner ones. Then go and weld around the outside of each part. When you weld each hole, start in the center of the hole and as it fills, work a nice round circle and fill the entire hole. You want good penetration so this is important. It will be obvious where you will need to take a hammer and pound in the metal so it conforms to the body of the car. The kit is very well thought out and does fit nice. Place a soaking wet towel over the center tunnel when welding across the back. Put all pieces in the car before welding any of them into place. We started with the back piece first and then the sides. I did a lot of the welds but Joe did an equal or better part of them so he could learn how to weld. I think he picked it up quite well. An excellent student. Once it is done and you take the car down off the jacks, you should see right away that your efforts are well rewarded. Before we started, his gap on the passenger side was tight at the top of the door and his window on the drivers side hit the weatherstrip at the top. When we were done, it was perfect and we made no adjustments. No flex in the body. Here are some pictures I took of some of the process. Any questions?


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skline   Engmans inner long stiffening kit   Apr 10 2005, 07:59 AM
skline   Test fit   Apr 10 2005, 08:00 AM
skline   next   Apr 10 2005, 08:00 AM
skline   Another   Apr 10 2005, 08:01 AM
skline   Driver side   Apr 10 2005, 08:01 AM
skline   Joe, welding in some corners.   Apr 10 2005, 08:02 AM
skline   Yes, you have to do each and every hole   Apr 10 2005, 08:03 AM
skline   An auto darkening helmet is really worth the money...   Apr 10 2005, 08:04 AM
skline   Almost there   Apr 10 2005, 08:05 AM
skline   Obviously there will be places that you cannot get...   Apr 10 2005, 08:06 AM
skline   The little 2 pound sledge works great for this job...   Apr 10 2005, 08:07 AM
skline   Last one, any questions now?   Apr 10 2005, 08:08 AM
skline   When you get all done, you can go back and grind t...   Apr 10 2005, 08:10 AM
Elliot Cannon   Nice job men. (You to Scott). LOL. This looks ...   Apr 10 2005, 08:21 AM
sgomes     Apr 10 2005, 08:41 AM
Elliot Cannon   So...which on of you burnt the seat belt buckle in...   Apr 10 2005, 08:46 AM
skline   Yeah Elliot, you are a funny guy. The first pictur...   Apr 10 2005, 09:30 AM
trekkor   Deja Vu?!? http://www.914...   Apr 10 2005, 09:39 AM
skline   Joe came by and borrowed my heat gun to remove the...   Apr 10 2005, 09:43 AM
Elliot Cannon     Apr 10 2005, 09:46 AM
Paul Illick   You're burning off paint from the outside of t...   Apr 10 2005, 09:53 AM
skline   Now that is actually a very good question. I will ...   Apr 10 2005, 10:03 AM
JB 914   I treated the areas where the panels are to POR-15...   Apr 10 2005, 10:08 AM
rdauenhauer   Cool http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Apr 10 2005, 12:05 PM
Travis Neff   I have a question about supporting the car. As th...   Apr 10 2005, 12:15 PM
skline   Ok, well I am no expert on this so I can only make...   Apr 10 2005, 01:27 PM
Thorshammer   What Do these pieces weigh, and how much does the ...   Apr 10 2005, 01:46 PM
JB 914   you can get the kits from Engman. look under the ...   Apr 10 2005, 02:11 PM
Lou W   Engman Kit   Apr 10 2005, 02:18 PM
Brando   Were those the only peices? I thought the stiffeni...   Apr 10 2005, 06:47 PM
Mueller     Apr 10 2005, 06:59 PM
Elliot Cannon   Engmans is an interior kit. You can order the oth...   Apr 10 2005, 07:00 PM
Brando   I see. I thought these were part of a 'complet...   Apr 10 2005, 07:00 PM
Elliot Cannon   <...   Apr 10 2005, 07:03 PM
JB 914     Apr 10 2005, 07:08 PM
d914   heat gun and a putty knife.....comes right up like...   Apr 10 2005, 07:16 PM
Engman   Couple of answers - Skline - you did it right - ...   Apr 10 2005, 08:22 PM
trekkor   My classic install I did this last July. I though...   Apr 10 2005, 08:30 PM
CptTripps   This kit is awesome... I put the kit on after I h...   Apr 10 2005, 08:55 PM
914efi   When you weld the piece in across the rear of the ...   Apr 11 2005, 07:53 AM
trekkor   The rear piece is attatched to a double walled sec...   Apr 11 2005, 08:18 AM
charlesmac   This is definately on my list of "to do's" But...   Apr 11 2005, 12:24 PM
SpecialK   I was checking out the installation of the stiffen...   Apr 11 2005, 12:57 PM
Aaron Cox     Apr 11 2005, 05:58 PM
SpecialK   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/ht...   Apr 11 2005, 07:14 PM


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