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> Frustrating - No spark from coil to dizzy?, Update: OK we have a runner
jaredmcginness
post Oct 10 2020, 04:47 PM
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Hey guys,

This is endlessly frustrating. I waited to post until i needed to. I will try to give as much info and be as clear as possible, so bear with me.

This SHOULD be simple. Air, Fuel, and Spark.


Completed my engine build. Ready to fire and break in the cam. I got good oil pressure while cranking. All is well there.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1601947105.6.jpg)

I am breaking the motor in on the ground. Do I have everything necessary?
Going off the old beetle bench run list.
-Positive battery to Starter +
-Negative battery grounded to starter base and trans body
-Direct 12v to Terminal 15 on the coil

I believe - beside fuel and air, thats all I need hooked up for a carbed motor. Coils typically do NOT need a ground, right?


(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1602370043.1.jpg)


Last night I tried this and only got spark from cylinder 3. No luck on anything else.
I met up with my buddy @nditiz1 today and he mentioned maybe I had the wrong vaccuum advance/FI distributor.... ding ding ding. (Pn# 172-001)


Gracisouly, he lent me three 009 Distributors to test. One being a pertronix. These are known good out of a running car(s). My two hunks o junk on the right...


(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1602370043.2.jpg)


I have:
-Bosch Blue Coil tested @:
-3.9 resistance
-8600 ohms

Stocker coil tested @:
-4.2 resistance
-7600 ohms.

12 volt and test light check out @ term 15 and term 1

I believe these are good numbers all around.


I ditched the FI dizzys, tried the pertronix - no dice.
I tried a points 009, no dice.

At this point, I have swapped:

4 Dizzy
5 caps
5 rotors
2 coils
3 starters
set of plug wires

Other notes:

New battery.

Rotor lined up with the notch, at TDC #1, pointed at one.
Plug wires, clockwise, 1, 4, 3, 2 (they are a bit wonky lay out, seemed wrong, but match the firing order

This is the plug layout... seem right?

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-23209-1602370043.3.jpg)

-Plugs are NGK and gapped

-I cannot seem to get the coil post to spark. I got it last night, but it is fighting me now.
(unplugged from dizzy, held about 1/4" off a ground, and cranked the motor) No spark. But coil numbers are good. Could be benching it wrong. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

-Tried grounding plugs 3 and 1 on the body, no spark.

Everything seems good until it comes out of the coil?

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jaredmcginness   Frustrating - No spark from coil to dizzy?   Oct 10 2020, 04:47 PM
Mikey914   Did you by chance get fake NGK's Regardless of...   Oct 10 2020, 05:08 PM
ndfrigi   Hey guys, This is endlessly frustrating. I waite...   Oct 10 2020, 05:35 PM
jaredmcginness   looks like the dizzy is not in the right/proper...   Oct 10 2020, 05:46 PM
Retroracer   May be misinterpreting this - but I think you are ...   Oct 10 2020, 05:46 PM
jaredmcginness   May be misinterpreting this - but I think you are...   Oct 10 2020, 05:50 PM
sholman5   Either the wires are not in the correct order, c...   Oct 10 2020, 05:49 PM
jaredmcginness   Here is a picture with the cap off. I installed p...   Oct 10 2020, 06:00 PM
rhodyguy   Try one terminal clockwise.   Oct 10 2020, 06:13 PM
type2man   Remove the passenger valve cover (the one opposit...   Oct 10 2020, 06:30 PM
jaredmcginness   Remove the passenger valve cover (the one opposi...   Oct 10 2020, 07:46 PM
type2man   [quote name='type2man' post='2857997' date='Oct 1...   Oct 12 2020, 09:11 PM
jaredmcginness   I meant the drivers side valve cover. My bad. At...   Oct 13 2020, 09:59 AM
ndfrigi   check this thread http://www.914world.com/bbs2/in...   Oct 10 2020, 07:19 PM
nditiz1   Even if the distributor gear is out of factory spe...   Oct 10 2020, 10:14 PM
Tbrown4x4   I should stay the hell out of this, but I have to ...   Oct 10 2020, 11:57 PM
Superhawk996   I should stay the hell out of this, but I have to...   Oct 11 2020, 07:33 AM
jaredmcginness   Thanks for the offer Superhawk. Before I saw that ...   Oct 11 2020, 09:57 AM
Superhawk996   :D Sweet it sounds like you’ve got it under co...   Oct 11 2020, 10:47 AM
ndfrigi   nice! keep it going and continue sharing also ...   Oct 11 2020, 11:49 AM


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