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> Need a pep talk/help: can't eliminate exhaust leak after 5 attempts
DC_neun_vierzehn
post Aug 12 2023, 07:41 PM
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Looking for some advice and encouragement because I'm ready to say "uncle."

I have a '73 2.0 w/ a fresh 2056 rebuild. Exhaust studs are new. I have new exhaust stud nuts from @rhodyguy . I have new Victor Reinz copper washers and exhaust gaskets. My heat exchangers (HEs) are stock (not stainless).

By using the shop vac blow up the tailpipe method, I have detected exhaust leaks on the passenger side (PS) at both exhaust ports as well as at the muffler gasket.

Here's the method I used on the driver's side (DS) and it worked perfectly: a dab of Elmer's glue on the copper washers to get them to sit in the heads and used the X pattern to tighten the nuts moving to the next nut after 3 rotations. Worked perfectly, no air leaks.

I tried the same method on the PS HE, but it failed to eliminate the air leaks at the head after 5 straight attempts of removing and reinstalling. SO FRUSTRATING.

Based off of past threads I found via the search, the only things left to try:

1. Gently file the HE pipes to square them off (use a Sharpie to mark the tops and only file until ink is gone using a large bastard file that will do both pipes simultaneously). I did not do this yet because the pipe ends look flat and clean. When I set one of the copper washers on the top of the pipes they sit flat and even - when I shine a flashlight behind that I don't see any light coming through.

2. Anneal the copper gaskets using a blowtorch - I have no idea how I would get the copper gaskets to sit in the heads after annealing them and then lay on my back underneath them while trying to install the HE sounds a burn victim waiting to happen. How does one do this safely?

I'll take any suggestions or encouragement because after spending 4-5 hours on this today, I'm feeling a bit hopeless.
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DC_neun_vierzehn   Need a pep talk/help: can't eliminate exhaust leak after 5 attempts   Aug 12 2023, 07:41 PM
mepstein   When you anneal them, you get them red hot and the...   Aug 12 2023, 08:09 PM
BeatNavy   Mark is right. The only other thoughts I have: 1...   Aug 12 2023, 08:27 PM
rhodyguy   File the ends. You might see a miss spot on the fi...   Aug 12 2023, 08:30 PM
DC_neun_vierzehn   Silly question. Positive both old copper rings re...   Aug 13 2023, 07:00 AM
914_teener   I went through this same issue but with the SSHE...   Aug 12 2023, 10:03 PM
930cabman   I said uncle. My recent 2056 build with SS exchan...   Aug 13 2023, 04:48 AM
barefoot   I have the SSI's and filed the seal surfaces w...   Aug 13 2023, 05:34 AM
Porschef   Yes, retorque after a run. A little gentle up and ...   Aug 13 2023, 06:44 AM
DC_neun_vierzehn   Thanks everyone for the encouragement/suggestions ...   Aug 13 2023, 06:59 AM
bkrantz   The exchanger pipe ends need to be not just flat b...   Aug 13 2023, 07:30 PM
ClayPerrine   I will add my experience here. Loose assemble eve...   Aug 14 2023, 08:16 AM
DC_neun_vierzehn   I will add my experience here. Loose assemble ev...   Aug 14 2023, 10:26 AM
DC_neun_vierzehn   I will add my experience here. Loose assemble e...   Aug 14 2023, 01:29 PM
r_towle   I will add my experience here. Loose assemble ev...   Aug 15 2023, 05:46 PM
76-914   I use a different method to dress the header. As M...   Aug 14 2023, 08:48 AM
ClayPerrine   Standard torque specification for a 8x1.25 bolt is...   Aug 14 2023, 02:31 PM
rjames   I'm paranoid about overtightening the exhaust ...   Aug 14 2023, 03:40 PM
mgphoto   The number I look for here is 122 inch pounds, the...   Aug 15 2023, 03:37 PM
iankarr   Permatex 81878 max temp gasket maker is your frien...   Aug 15 2023, 04:20 PM
DC_neun_vierzehn   Thanks everyone. The careful/light filing of the...   Aug 16 2023, 09:10 PM
Eric_Ciampa   I just wrapped up installation of headers. Same ad...   Aug 16 2023, 09:48 PM
IronHillRestorations   Before you torque the nuts at the heads, use a fla...   Aug 24 2023, 04:09 PM
nathanxnathan   I have always quenched the gaskets in water after ...   Aug 24 2023, 05:20 PM


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