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> CHT seems high - oil normal?
FlacaProductions
post Aug 23 2023, 07:33 AM
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74 2.0 (details below)
Very gently rolling 2-lane roads. 3000-3500rpm cruise 55-65-ish MPH. Mid-90’s.

This is not a new concern but something I’ve been noticing/monitoring since I got this car 4 years ago. It’s kept at our other home where I get 5-7 day-access 4-5 times a year so it goes in fits and starts. Nothing has made a noticeable difference.

My concern is that head temps seem to skew high as confirmed by Dakota CHT gauge under #3. Pulling a gentle grade, it went to high 300’s and asking a moderate acceleration, CHT goes above 375. Touched 400 a couple of times.

Oil temps stay low 200’s (225) as confirmed by taco plate gauge and Manley dipstick thermometer and react accordingly (ie: in direct but slow relation to the CHT)

According to Jake Raby’s writings: "Engines that cruise at 375 are generally out of tune or may be misconfigured creating more heat.”

Am I making too much of this? In my head, CHT over 400 is baaaaad.

I’m going to run a snake camera around the top of the tins and check the condition of the oil cooler fins today - that’s about all I can think of at this point.

Input? What’s to tune?

Status: timing confirmed at 28 degrees. Idles at 1000 steady. 195/55’s w/speedo calibrated. All tins present and thermostat/flaps are functioning. New oil less than 200 miles ago - Driven DT50 Full-Synthetic 15w50.

Engine specs: “stock performance” rebuild by Brad Mayeur in 2010 with new, original Mahle European pistons and cylinders, Raby FI cam and lifters new German K&S bearings on a std/std crankshaft. Heads completely rebuilt, new stainless valves and new springs by Tuttle’s Parts Exchange.


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FlacaProductions   CHT seems high - oil normal?   Aug 23 2023, 07:33 AM
VaccaRabite   Make sure all the air leaks around your tins are s...   Aug 23 2023, 07:48 AM
FlacaProductions   Will do - starting with checking tins today.   Aug 23 2023, 07:55 AM
rfinegan   I recall reading that stock Djets/Ljets runs a lit...   Aug 23 2023, 08:24 AM
FlacaProductions   @rfinegan - that's exactly the piece of ...   Aug 23 2023, 10:46 AM
914_teener   I'm thinking mixture at part load and fuel pre...   Aug 23 2023, 11:01 AM
FlacaProductions   I'm thinking mixture at part load and fuel pr...   Aug 23 2023, 11:52 AM
914_teener   I'm thinking mixture at part load and fuel p...   Aug 23 2023, 02:33 PM
rfinegan   I'm thinking mixture at part load and fuel p...   Aug 23 2023, 04:55 PM
Geezer914   How is your oil pressure holding up?   Aug 23 2023, 11:35 AM
emerygt350   You could try a thinner oil, go to a high quality ...   Aug 23 2023, 01:59 PM
brant   Do you have an AFR? I would suspect lean mix at ...   Aug 23 2023, 07:02 PM
914_teener   Do you have an AFR? I would suspect lean mix at...   Aug 24 2023, 01:48 PM
FlacaProductions   @emerygt350 No AFR although I'm familiar with...   Aug 23 2023, 02:05 PM
914_teener   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Aug 23 2023, 02:39 PM
emerygt350   Getting yourself a 123 is a great way to eliminate...   Aug 23 2023, 05:37 PM
FlacaProductions   @914_teener - Correct - CR is unknown to me. I c...   Aug 23 2023, 06:37 PM
Olympic 914   I know you don't want to mess with the MPS B...   Aug 23 2023, 07:18 PM
FlacaProductions   ok - lots to things to work on here - i really app...   Aug 23 2023, 07:27 PM
Porschef   Just throwing in the ring some echoing comments, t...   Aug 24 2023, 05:51 AM
FlacaProductions   @Porschef - Thanks for this. I'm taking all-c...   Aug 24 2023, 06:54 AM
rfinegan   Plug your fuel pressure gage into the Cold start i...   Aug 24 2023, 08:44 AM
FlacaProductions   Yup. Did just that @rfinegan - right on 30psi. ...   Aug 24 2023, 09:14 AM
rfinegan   Lots of people run at 30 psi...leave it there for ...   Aug 24 2023, 09:31 AM
FlacaProductions   Bumped the timing from 28 to 30 and it seems to li...   Aug 24 2023, 01:03 PM
914_teener   Bumped the timing from 28 to 30 and it seems to l...   Aug 24 2023, 02:01 PM
FlacaProductions   @914_teener and [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com...   Aug 24 2023, 02:01 PM
914_teener   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Aug 24 2023, 02:06 PM
FlacaProductions   @914_teener - I appreciate the offer but I'm ...   Aug 24 2023, 02:18 PM
emerygt350   Yeah, only touch the mps once you are sure about w...   Aug 24 2023, 04:02 PM
FlacaProductions   Yeah, only touch the mps once you are sure about ...   Aug 24 2023, 04:25 PM
emerygt350   Yeah, true.   Aug 24 2023, 04:32 PM
FlacaProductions   A couple of pics of my distributer advance can and...   Aug 24 2023, 04:37 PM
emerygt350   Where is that vacuum hose headed? Does it go to t...   Aug 24 2023, 05:50 PM
emerygt350   And just FYI, from the factory they would dangle a...   Aug 24 2023, 05:52 PM
emerygt350   I believe on a 74 that little plugged nozel would ...   Aug 24 2023, 05:56 PM
emerygt350   Here is the 73 version. The place where your plug...   Aug 24 2023, 06:04 PM
914_teener   Ok...couple of things I see: 1. Looks like you ha...   Aug 24 2023, 06:08 PM
FlacaProductions   Next up: -picture/confirmation as to where the ad...   Aug 24 2023, 08:17 PM
914_teener   Next up: -picture/confirmation as to where the a...   Aug 25 2023, 09:00 AM
emerygt350   Next up: -picture/confirmation as to where the ...   Aug 25 2023, 09:06 AM
emerygt350   Just pop the vacuum pump on there and see if they ...   Aug 25 2023, 05:01 AM
gereed75   I am very curious about the basis of this statemen...   Aug 25 2023, 06:53 AM
FlacaProductions   Seems that you are very close as CHTs peaking aro...   Aug 25 2023, 09:24 AM
emerygt350   That's just an old saying. Seems right from m...   Aug 25 2023, 09:03 AM
FlacaProductions   Waiting for the vac tester to show up at FLAPS des...   Aug 25 2023, 09:17 AM
914_teener   Waiting for the vac tester to show up at FLAPS de...   Aug 25 2023, 11:24 AM
emerygt350   I don't know how mine will behave going forwar...   Aug 25 2023, 10:51 AM
FlacaProductions   Vacuum test update: MPS - no issue holding @12 fo...   Aug 25 2023, 11:35 AM
914_teener   Vacuum test update: MPS - no issue holding @12 f...   Aug 25 2023, 12:26 PM
FlacaProductions   OK. I hate things that are unresolved and this ce...   Aug 25 2023, 01:17 PM
emerygt350   Yes, good advice. I bet you might find a decel ar...   Aug 25 2023, 04:27 PM
914_teener   Ok....to the OP, while the port might not be there...   Aug 25 2023, 05:25 PM
emerygt350   Yes, I was an advance supporter too for exactly th...   Aug 25 2023, 06:32 PM
FlacaProductions   OK - how do I determine which decel part number is...   Aug 25 2023, 07:25 PM
emerygt350   You shouldn't need a t for a late 74 I believe...   Aug 26 2023, 06:27 AM
emerygt350   Here is mine, but it's a 73. Probably the sam...   Aug 26 2023, 08:36 AM
FlacaProductions   Thanks for this - there are two different model nu...   Aug 26 2023, 08:47 AM
emerygt350   Soo.... some very interesting things in my 2056 b...   Aug 28 2023, 04:57 PM
Porschef   Soo.... some very interesting things in my 2056 ...   Aug 28 2023, 05:17 PM
emerygt350   I have the non-bluetooth 123dizzy. It is set to t...   Aug 28 2023, 05:53 PM
914_teener   I have the non-bluetooth 123dizzy. It is set to ...   Aug 28 2023, 06:12 PM
emerygt350   I have the non-bluetooth 123dizzy. It is set to...   Aug 28 2023, 06:17 PM
emerygt350   Let me give some temperatures. Drove 100 miles yes...   Aug 28 2023, 06:11 PM
Porschef   Let me give some temperatures. Drove 100 miles ye...   Aug 29 2023, 06:25 AM
FlacaProductions   This is really interesting - I appreciate the cont...   Aug 28 2023, 06:45 PM
emerygt350   This is really interesting - I appreciate the con...   Aug 28 2023, 07:14 PM
914_teener   This is really interesting - I appreciate the con...   Aug 29 2023, 12:13 PM
emerygt350   The temps dropped after I put the vacuum advance b...   Aug 29 2023, 10:08 AM
Porschef   The temps dropped after I put the vacuum advance ...   Aug 29 2023, 11:24 AM
emerygt350   I am super happy that mine hasn't leaked at al...   Aug 29 2023, 11:58 AM


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