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> seattle area tool options?, need ball joint socket & CV tool
bradtho
post Jan 23 2013, 04:55 PM
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getting ready for my big winter project, everything is lining up great with one exception, PP says they don't have any ball joint sockets or CV tools. Of course, Sears doesn't have such things. I got a really crappy set of 12 points from schucks a year or so ago. I'm not too excited to risk rounding out my CV bolts with this thing.

Recommended mail order places I can get specialty tools like this? I liked using PP because I knew they'd know a Porsche ball joint tool from a crescent wrench. Not sure about others.

For Seattle folks, any other local tool shops? I went to Tool Town in Totem Lake, and the spot was vacant. Kinda sad, it was a cool place with a little bit of everything.
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post Jan 23 2013, 05:00 PM
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I always replace my 12 point bolts with allen head cap bolts. So my 12 is just for removing them. And if one strips i have to break out the ol grinder.
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post Jan 23 2013, 05:28 PM
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Interesting. VW and Porsche replaced the easily-rounded-out inhex bolts with the far better triple square variety. Buy a GOOD socket, make sure the holes are clean and the socket is fully seated, and you'll never have a problem with them. If you can find a Snap On man, get the tool from him. They're warranted for life.

As for the ball joint tool, I've never owned one and probably never will. A nicely prepared punch or chisel has a great job for me over the last 40 years.

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post Jan 23 2013, 05:52 PM
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I work here in Bellevue at mercedes benz, I see the snap on and mac tool guys every tuesday or wednesday. I could buy you whatever you need if you want a good socket.

I prefer the mac tools just because the snap on guy seems like a prick and charges an arm and leg for everything.
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post Jan 23 2013, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE(Noodles @ Jan 23 2013, 03:52 PM) *

I work here in Bellevue at mercedes benz, I see the snap on and mac tool guys every tuesday or wednesday. I could buy you whatever you need if you want a good socket.

I prefer the mac tools just because the snap on guy seems like a prick and charges an arm and leg for everything.


Being a prick drove our MAC man out of business ............................. MAC tools are fine as far as I'm concerned. Be warned, however, that they're owned by Stanley Tools and there are some products that ate driven by cost, not quality ................

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post Jan 23 2013, 06:44 PM
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I found a triple square tool at advance auto, try a FLAPS, they may have it.
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post Jan 23 2013, 06:53 PM
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Pierside Parts has the CV socket for $6.99
http://www.piersideparts.net/BP7057.html
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post Jan 24 2013, 09:42 AM
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somewhat local for the cv bolt tool. tool town, harbor freight.

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post Jan 24 2013, 10:57 AM
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thanks everyone, I'll probably get a snap on (may take you up on your offer noodles), the one I have from my flaps, was round out the tool when I tried to use it on the fan bolts.

so no options for ball joint sockets? besides the capn's homebrew method? I don't think these have been off since the factory installed them, so I'm expecting it to be quite a chore.
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post Jan 24 2013, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Jan 23 2013, 06:28 PM) *

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As for the ball joint tool, I've never owned one and probably never will. A nicely prepared punch or chisel has a great job for me over the last 40 years.

The Cap'n


How do you install the ball joint nut to a particular torque without a tool?
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post Jan 24 2013, 03:22 PM
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You beat it with the punch and hammer until it wont go any farther. You could index the nut with a mark on the arm and see how close you get, but that's assuming the one you took off was torqued to spec.

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post Jan 24 2013, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(mskala @ Jan 24 2013, 11:57 AM) *

How do you install the ball joint nut to a particular torque without a tool?

Torque's not especially significant in this application.
It needs to be good and tight to ensure there is no axial movement in the ball joint mounting. That's it. There is a castellated keeper to keep the ball joint nut from turning, and a cotter pin keeping the keeper in place. It's not gonna loosen on its own.

I've spun a few off with just the 2-lb bronze hammer and a dull chisel and had no issues. If I had the air compressor spun up I might use one of the chisel/drift tools in the air hammer, but mine never got to where it was necessary.

The last 10 years in The Salt Zone has given me a new perspective on stuck fasteners, but I still don't think 'the right tool' is going to get it on or off any better than the 'field expedient' smack it with a drift method.

Use anti-sieze when it goes back together and the next guy (quite possibly you...) will have an easier day.
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post Jan 24 2013, 04:52 PM
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Oh - and for triple-squares of many sizes and other Volkswagen / Audi bits and drivers, I have nothing but praise for MetalNerd:
MetalNerd's Site
He's usually at WaterFest for those in the NorthEast...
Good stuff, made in the USA...
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post Jan 24 2013, 05:15 PM
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pic of napa 12 point

and i squirt some wd40 (tube on can) into each 12 point head to clean them out - make sure 12 point is all the way in (aka: balls deep)



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