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> Looking for personal feedback on Rivet on flares, Who has used what and were you happy
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post Sep 1 2015, 02:21 PM
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Hi there,

I know there are tons of users out of FG flares and I wanted to get some opinions before I pulled the trigger for a set of flares.

I know some have used Rennspeed, AA, Patrick, so I just wanted to get a sense of who was happy with the product.

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post Sep 1 2015, 03:30 PM
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Happy with Patrick Motorsports products. I bought plastic rivets to not scar the paint from McMaster-Carr.... I believe I sourced the piping/welting from a VW shop in Cali. This is my old car and my current car has steel flares. I prefer the rivet on look if I had a choice. I always liked this picture...this is my friend Lewis Broyles - he worked on the car quite allot with me and was kind of like a proud papa. ;-)

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post Sep 1 2015, 05:38 PM
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I have two sets. One from AIR and one set I got from 914LTD. I chose to rivet with welting under the flares. I am happy with the look. The welting makes it look a little more finished.

I originally had them screwed but the rivets look better and stay tight.

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post Sep 1 2015, 08:05 PM
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I don't have a flared car, but I do have a set of FG flares and just haven't found the right car to put them on. I L-O-V-E the rivited-on look.
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post Sep 1 2015, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE(Mike Bellis @ Sep 1 2015, 06:38 PM) *

I have two sets. One from AIR and one set I got from 914LTD. I chose to rivet with welting under the flares. I am happy with the look. The welting makes it look a little more finished.

I originally had them screwed but the rivets look better and stay tight.



The car looks great! Which set was on the car in the images? Also where do you get the welting?
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post Sep 1 2015, 08:31 PM
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The car looks great! Which set was on the car in the images? Also where do you get the welting?

These are the AIR flares. They were a little thicker than the others but not by much. I think I used 1940 Ford truck fender welting. Very similar to the VW stuff but this finishes as a rounded enlarged lip. Like this...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-1979-FORD-TRU...fdf&vxp=mtr
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post Sep 1 2015, 09:04 PM
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The method Mike (and others) have utilized (attached without trying to blend in with body filler), is probably best. I've seen a lot of filled-in glass ones crack at the attachment seams (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I still can't find it in me to cut up the fenders on either one of our 914s (yet), but I have a nice thick set sitting up in the rafters. The VW fender beading really finishes them off very nicely (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif)
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QUOTE(euro911 @ Sep 1 2015, 10:04 PM) *

The method Mike (and others) have utilized (attached without trying to blend in with body filler), is probably best. I've seen a lot of filled-in glass ones crack at the attachment seams (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I still can't find it in me to cut up the fenders on either one of our 914s (yet), but I have a nice thick set sitting up in the rafters. The VW fender beading really finishes them off very nicely (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif)

Euro911, are you interested in unloading the set up in the rafters?

If so please let me know.

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post Sep 2 2015, 01:08 AM
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QUOTE(euro911 @ Sep 2 2015, 03:04 PM) *

The method Mike (and others) have utilized (attached without trying to blend in with body filler), is probably best. I've seen a lot of filled-in glass ones crack at the attachment seams (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I still can't find it in me to cut up the fenders on either one of our 914s (yet), but I have a nice thick set sitting up in the rafters. The VW fender beading really finishes them off very nicely (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif)


But you have to cut?,I have nice set of new 16x8 to go on the rear but the cost to flare the stock body is an issue so would consider doing it,my car is a 2.0 74 >914/6 copy so not really going to worry me.
I do think the bolt on ones look nice but who makes them???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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I believe they have moulded in recess's for the bolts and I presume nut- serts into the body,anyway food for thought.
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post Sep 2 2015, 01:45 AM
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QUOTE(porschetub @ Sep 2 2015, 12:08 AM) *
But you have to cut?,I have nice set of new 16x8 to go on the rear but the cost to flare the stock body is an issue so would consider doing it,my car is a 2.0 74 >914/6 copy so not really going to worry me.
I do think the bolt on ones look nice but who makes them???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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I believe they have moulded in recess's for the bolts and I presume nut-serts into the body,anyway food for thought.
Yes, the existing fender metal needs to be cut so your tires will fit.

I haven't seen any with molded recesses. There are several methods to attach them - rivets, sheet-metal screws, machine screws with nylock nuts, and of course, the high end choice: dzus fasteners (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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post Sep 2 2015, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE(euro911 @ Sep 1 2015, 08:04 PM) *

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I've seen a lot of filled-in glass ones crack at the attachment seams (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)



Two words: Vette Adhesive.

"It's glue, strong stuff" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
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post Sep 2 2015, 11:23 AM
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PO went wild (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) with self tapping sheet metal srews (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

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Check out this spread of the creation of a Rauh-Welt 911. He uses screws on the fenders, and instead of a welt, he has a neat trick with some sort of sealant/adhesive. I would think this only works well with flares that are really thin.

http://www.speedhunters.com/2015/08/the-ma...ing-rwb-miyabi/
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Pretty cool and definitely different but not practical for anything but a show car. One of the benefits of removable fenders is they are, well - REMOVEABLE. It appears most of what he does is for "show and shine"...nothing wrong with that but not how a "driven track car" needs to have easily removed and replaced panels (from shunts and offs). I'd stay with the welting if the car is to see maintenance, track or autocross duties. JMHO

PS: That is some thick head of hair that boy has...might catch it on fire with cancer stick.

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Check out this spread of the creation of a Rauh-Welt 911. He uses screws on the fenders, and instead of a welt, he has a neat trick with some sort of sealant/adhesive. I would think this only works well with flares that are really thin.

http://www.speedhunters.com/2015/08/the-ma...ing-rwb-miyabi/
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post Sep 2 2015, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(Cracker @ Sep 1 2015, 02:30 PM) *

Happy with Patrick Motorsports products. I bought plastic rivets to not scar the paint from McMaster-Carr.... I believe I sourced the piping/welting from a VW shop in Cali. This is my old car and my current car has steel flares. I prefer the rivet on look if I had a choice. I always liked this picture...this is my friend Lewis Broyles - he worked on the car quite allot with me and was kind of like a proud papa. ;-)

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.clubcobra.com-11316-1441160773.1.jpg)



Wow, that's a GREAT looking car. Nice vision, nice execution. Do you have any more pics? Curious to see this car from other angles.

There is a red car floating around the PNW with bolt-on flares with no welting and it looks really, really good. If it was good enough for the 993 GT2, I supposed it's good enough for the 914...
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Thanks but that is yesterday's news...don't want to hijack either. I dug the look too...it was a good hot rod and mediocre at best track car. There were reasons for that...

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QUOTE(Cracker @ Sep 1 2015, 02:30 PM) *

Happy with Patrick Motorsports products. I bought plastic rivets to not scar the paint from McMaster-Carr.... I believe I sourced the piping/welting from a VW shop in Cali. This is my old car and my current car has steel flares. I prefer the rivet on look if I had a choice. I always liked this picture...this is my friend Lewis Broyles - he worked on the car quite allot with me and was kind of like a proud papa. ;-)

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.clubcobra.com-11316-1441160773.1.jpg)



Wow, that's a GREAT looking car. Nice vision, nice execution. Do you have any more pics? Curious to see this car from other angles.

There is a red car floating around the PNW with bolt-on flares with no welting and it looks really, really good. If it was good enough for the 993 GT2, I supposed it's good enough for the 914...

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QUOTE(porschetub @ Sep 1 2015, 11:08 PM) *

QUOTE(euro911 @ Sep 2 2015, 03:04 PM) *

The method Mike (and others) have utilized (attached without trying to blend in with body filler), is probably best. I've seen a lot of filled-in glass ones crack at the attachment seams (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I still can't find it in me to cut up the fenders on either one of our 914s (yet), but I have a nice thick set sitting up in the rafters. The VW fender beading really finishes them off very nicely (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif)


But you have to cut?,I have nice set of new 16x8 to go on the rear but the cost to flare the stock body is an issue so would consider doing it,my car is a 2.0 74 >914/6 copy so not really going to worry me.
I do think the bolt on ones look nice but who makes them???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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That's my old car. Those are the normal fiberglass GT flairs available everywhere (three of mine were from one supplier and the 4th from another). Spent a pile of time getting them to lay flat on the body. Then marked and cut. the original fasteners came from Better Bodies from there 996 RSR kit. The were domed allen bolts with a rubber gasket underneath. The gasket between the flair and the body was "heavy duty" VW beetle fender welting (it had a larger bead that completely hid the raw edge of the flair).


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Here ya go... Trekkor's flare install:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...3&hl=flares
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