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post Nov 12 2015, 09:59 AM
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FOR SALE: PORSCHE 914-6, based on an ORIGINAL PORSCHE 914-6 with its body replaced in the eighties by a 914-4 one. The original body was damaged in an accident and replaced with great care by another body of the same year and color. Otherwise this car is a completely original 6-cilinder with all its details. The condition of the car is excellent. An unique opportunity to get a real 914-6 for an interesting budget instead of paying prices near € 125.000,-. You will also find this car on the cover and pages of the Porsche 914 book "Caught by Camera". If you have questions please contact us at e-mail.

Priced at: 47,950 EUR 51,490 USD

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post Nov 12 2015, 10:01 AM
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A 914 VIN
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post Nov 12 2015, 10:02 AM
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Anything else is just a conversion. There are lots of quality 4 cylinder cars converted with real 914-6 parts
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post Nov 12 2015, 10:04 AM
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Correct, 914 vin required to be a real six. Better yet, numbers matching with correct motor. As was stated, anything else is just another conversion...
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post Nov 12 2015, 10:10 AM
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most of the time, the conversion cars are way more fun to drive... but not everyone that likes Porsches like to drive them. For example, Mike Valentine has only 250 miles on his 918... John Dixon (may he rest in peace) had a Carrera GT with all the shipping plastic still on it...
so... I think its more important to have it so you can drive it, but that's just my opinion...
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post Nov 12 2015, 10:13 AM
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post Nov 12 2015, 10:13 AM
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Looking at the sellers location, it is Arno Wienands from Netherlands.... He is in the market and asking that price.
For me it is a lot of money for a conversion (yes it is one) other nice builds out there deliver same or more fun. Most times with more HP.
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post Nov 12 2015, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(dflesburg @ Nov 12 2015, 06:10 PM) *

most of the time, the conversion cars are way more fun to drive... but not everyone that likes Porsches like to drive them. For example, Mike Valentine has only 250 miles on his 918... John Dixon (may he rest in peace) had a Carrera GT with all the shipping plastic still on it...
so... I think its more important to have it so you can drive it, but that's just my opinion...



Sometimes its more important to have it...... and you have to find a good place for it... well pamperd inside your house. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) See pics

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post Nov 12 2015, 10:44 AM
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Have you seen the women who will live in a cave?
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QUOTE(billh1963 @ Nov 12 2015, 09:02 AM) *

Anything else is just a conversion. There are lots of quality 4 cylinder cars converted with real 914-6 parts

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post Nov 12 2015, 12:22 PM
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A 914 VIN


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that offered car is a -4 conversion with maybe period correct parts.
imho, not worth EU50.
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post Nov 12 2015, 04:06 PM
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As they become more rare and expensive, even the fakes get better. This one is a great looking clone.
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QUOTE(Nine_14 @ Nov 12 2015, 11:20 AM) *

QUOTE(dflesburg @ Nov 12 2015, 06:10 PM) *

most of the time, the conversion cars are way more fun to drive... but not everyone that likes Porsches like to drive them. For example, Mike Valentine has only 250 miles on his 918... John Dixon (may he rest in peace) had a Carrera GT with all the shipping plastic still on it...
so... I think its more important to have it so you can drive it, but that's just my opinion...



Sometimes its more important to have it...... and you have to find a good place for it... well pamperd inside your house. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) See pics

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post Nov 12 2015, 08:44 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) Exactly what I was thinking. I do like the car though.
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post Nov 13 2015, 08:47 AM
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The factory will not recognize it as an original /6 if you request a COA.

It will come back as a /4, plain and simple.

I love that if all the true /6 parts made it to a donor chassis all the parts are "together" and not spread out all over the place.

I wouldn't kick it out of my garage, but I wouldn't be tool and try to pass it off as a real /6 at a car show or other event.
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post Nov 13 2015, 08:59 AM
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A 914/4 with a six cylinder in it isn't a real 6 anymore than a 912 with a 6 cylinder is a 911.

In many cases the modified car will be better than the original, but it doesn't make it an original.

FWIW i don't care about originality a single bit, and all my cars are HEAVILY modified, just like I like them.
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post Nov 13 2015, 09:37 AM
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Is it real or is it Memorex?
Gimp,Photoshop do some amazing pixelations,to make it seem real.
A perfect pair of______,can make your day.
A VanGogh,Picasso,Gibson and 914-6.All originals have the intrinsic worth as they should.
A 914-6 conversion has value of the same measure,to the driver.
A legal argument has been answered in regards to the Ferrari 250 GTO,246 Dino,365 GTB Daytona,308 GTS...
Around the world,a multitude of driven 'makers',emulate as less strenuous path to satisfaction.
That is the reason for copyright,to protect the labor of the designer from loss.
I can look at the RCR and think,gee that's nice,I like that one.
http://www.race-car-replicas.com/rcrp.html
A look at an original 308 GT4 and think 'I want to get one'.
I look at a #1 LeMan D-Type,and think "I can't afford that"
Want a 914-6?Buy a genuine example,or convert a dash 4,and make it make you happy.
The shape of your world,how does it make you feel?
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post Nov 13 2015, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(dflesburg @ Nov 12 2015, 11:10 AM) *

most of the time, the conversion cars are way more fun to drive... but not everyone that likes Porsches like to drive them. For example, Mike Valentine has only 250 miles on his 918... John Dixon (may he rest in peace) had a Carrera GT with all the shipping plastic still on it...
so... I think its more important to have it so you can drive it, but that's just my opinion...


Yes, but the miles on Mike's 918 are mostly track miles at Mid-Ohio! He just bought the thing, give him a break!
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post Nov 13 2015, 01:38 PM
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I am going to weigh in on this, though I am by no means an expert on the topic. If they took every single part out of the 914-6 and transferred it to an identical shell from a 914-4, it would be akin to buying a replacement shell from Porsche due to accident damage.

There isn't enough detail to determine the extent of the parts that were transferred, but if they really wanted to push it, they could transfer the VIN plates as well, though I am sure it would be considered illegal, even if the original VIN was never reported as totaled.

If you had a 914-6 that was in an accident, and you had to replace a bunch of sheet metal, and used replacements from a used 914-4, does that no longer make the car a true 914-6? It may have a blemished history, but seems no different than taking a 914-6 that is completely rusted out and replacing metal with new parts from Restoration Design.

I think the whole "originality" issue goes to another level once cars start to approach crazy high values.

Jim
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post Nov 13 2015, 01:44 PM
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Wasn't a lot of this discussed in the VIN swapping thread?
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