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| Larmo63 |
Dec 31 2015, 07:45 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,267 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
Chassis #1012 of 1973.
This car doesn't look like it was ever hit, although it has a '74 rear bumper(??) I haven't peeled the rocker covers off yet. We had it on a lift over at Steve's house, and it looks good underneath. As to whether I will convert this one, I am thinking long and hard about it. It is too nice of a car to hack up. |
| mepstein |
Dec 31 2015, 09:46 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,587 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Preserve and drive this one while you hack up speedy.
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| Cairo94507 |
Dec 31 2015, 09:52 AM
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Michael ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,609 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California
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Beautiful car. They may have added the '74 rear bumper tits just for the added protection.
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| EdwardBlume |
Dec 31 2015, 09:55 AM
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914 Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 12,340 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California
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Congratulations! Awesome buy.
You have an early '73 and a real 2.0. Some would call it an "S"... I've always been in the do whatever you want camp, but if it were me, I'd restore it as is. These days, you'll get more out of it..... As steel flared cars become more common, straight stock 2.0s are becoming rarer, and you have have the best of the best years for the 2.0 (LE aside)... Great find! |
| 76-914 |
Dec 31 2015, 10:14 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,876 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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Nice find. Do what you want to it. You only live once. If the next guy wants to take it back to a 4 cylinder, let him do it.
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| 0396 |
Dec 31 2015, 11:34 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,046 Joined: 13-October 03 From: L.A. Calif Member No.: 1,245 Region Association: Southern California |
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| Chris Pincetich |
Dec 31 2015, 11:55 AM
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B-) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,082 Joined: 3-October 05 From: Point Reyes Station, CA Member No.: 4,907 Region Association: Northern California |
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HEY, that looks like my 914! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) But, a little nicer and more original (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Black on Black is the best (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) |
| Tom_T |
Dec 31 2015, 12:01 PM
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TMI.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,321 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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Oh, and it has the weird black vinyl on the windshield frame too. Can you take some pictures around the car of this? I have been curious of doing this on mine but never sure on it.... Also, epic buy! Congrats! Do a search on here for a topic called something like "The first 1000...." or something like that - there actually 2 topics which discuss the quirks of the early 73 cars, including the A-pillar/windscreen frame vinyl "experiment" on the Appearance Group cars. It was started by another member up in Central CA with an early orange 73-2L, who since has sold his 914. IIRC there are some pix & links to other early 73 cars posts on here. Unless yours was an early production 73 - or you really really like that look - I wouldn't advise doing it to any other 914s outside of the first 2000-ish VINs of the 73 MY & produced in Aug-Sept 72. JMHO... PS - I read the next post down from yours & there were 2 links on the subject, but if you search through some of Mike/orange914 from Ceres CA's topics, he had another prior topic or two on the early 73's before the one linked. I had a half-zymers moment trying to remember his name/screen name above. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Thanx Zimms! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Safe & Happy New Years All! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
| EdwardBlume |
Dec 31 2015, 12:06 PM
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914 Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 12,340 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California
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504 had vinyl and is the back of the fabled Limo.....
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| Tom_T |
Dec 31 2015, 12:32 PM
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TMI.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,321 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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Chassis #1012 of 1973. This car doesn't look like it was ever hit, although it has a '74 rear bumper(??) I haven't peeled the rocker covers off yet. We had it on a lift over at Steve's house, and it looks good underneath. As to whether I will convert this one, I am thinking long and hard about it. It is too nice of a car to hack up. Of course he should do what he really wants folks, since it's his car & he's writing the checks & doing the manual labor - but I doubt that there would be any contrarians supporting him converting a factory 6 to a Subie or something! We're all here to offer help to fellow members, & that's what we on the "recco to preserve" this early 73-2L side are doing. The point is in ANY type of classic/vintage/collectible car arena - is that you don't mess with the rarer, more collectible car for an outlaw conversion, etc. Clearly, when he's got 2 914's & one is the least powerful & least collectible CA 73 1.7L .... then that's the car you resto-mod, & save the nicer & more collectible 73-74 2L (& an early "914S" as RobW noted). Larry, I saw this one on CL too & wondered about the rear bumper, which may just have been the convenient replacement to a rusty or minor bump damage, since they bend so easily. However, it's well worthwhile to verify that there is no rear end damage & that the Chassis no. stamped in the trunk is there & matches the one in the door. You may also see that they had to drill the mounting holes for the 2.0 badge in the trunk's rear wall, since they were still using up the 72 parts with the early 73's. That's also why there are some/many/most early 73s with the chrome base window crank handles & chrome int. door handles - they were still picking from the parts bins with leftover 72 parts in there (later 73s went to the all black plastic types). Also Larry, note that a 73-74 2.0 (74 LE's being a sub-set of these) in proper tune actually outperformed a factory six in the low end due to a flatter-wider torque curve which peaked a couple 1000 rpm lower than on the 2.0-6's, so it pulled better around town, then lost out to the -6's at higher revs where their HP & TQ peaked. You could take it to Bill Brewster down by you, to get him to tweak that 2L-4 & employ some of the old school tricks to get them to perform even better than the factory manuals suggest - especially now that they're smog exempt .... wink, wink - nod, nod .... as the Python's bit went! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Then there's Ron at FAT Performance up here in Orange if you want a hot 2.0 build; & AASE up in Fullerton is another 914-meister, as is my guy Hans in HB - but he's not taking any more old aircooled, except long time customers (40 years this past summer for me); & some racers like Der Buggy in GG/Westminster to build/tweak 2.0/T-IVs. It all depends on what you want to do to tweak the 2.0 motor, &/or if it ever needs a rebuild. If this is a clean, solid, rust-free(-ish) & mostly original `73-2L, then do what you really want, but think hard because you have the perfect donor for a 6-conversion example, which may also have a few donor parts for the 2L as the 1.7 gets modded for the Resto-mod/6. PS - Food for thought at the Hagerty link below .... & this is before the rising early 911/912 SWB/LWB price effect has kicked in - not #3 & #4 values in particular - not factory -6 prices, but certainly nothing to sneeze at! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools...Porsche-914-2.0 Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
| TJB/914 |
Dec 31 2015, 12:50 PM
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Mid-Engn. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,479 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Awesome find! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) What a great find and awesome color combo. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) Everyone forgot to ask 'original paint' ?? Is the paint code # L041 Black on the door tag?? Enjoy and drive it. Tom |
| somd914 |
Dec 31 2015, 04:25 PM
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Very nice find, congrats.
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| Larmo63 |
Jan 1 2016, 12:08 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,267 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
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| mepstein |
Jan 1 2016, 07:48 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,587 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Pull the seats, backpad and carpet. Clean everything. Makes a good weekend project and the car will feel clean and smell good.
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| JRust |
Jan 1 2016, 10:54 AM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,317 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Albany Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Maybe it's just been a while but those rear bumper tits look like they are set a little wider to me than stock. So wonder if they just added them to the stock 73 bumper (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) . Either way who cares man. Great find & that would be a car I would not do a conversion on personally. Nice stock 2.0 cars that are original are so few & far between. While I love conversions in all forms. I still love nice stock cars & wouldn't screw with an original. Enjoy that one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) . Considering taking mine out for a drive today. Just to damn cold out & no heater (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) .
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| JeffBowlsby |
Jan 1 2016, 11:27 AM
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914 Wiring Harnesses & Beekeeper ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,222 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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Do nothing but clean and maintain this 73 2.0L, keep it as original as possible. Hack into a lesser quality 914 if you must. Original, high quality 914s are almost all gone.
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| mbseto |
Jan 1 2016, 11:28 AM
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Congrats, she's a beaut!
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| Andyrew |
Jan 1 2016, 11:35 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,380 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Congrats! Good looking car! I say you keep this one just as it is and drive the heck out of it!
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| Larmo63 |
Jan 1 2016, 11:45 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,267 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
I'm flipping parts off of my other car onto this black car; the nicer bumpers, smalls, etc. The car was arrow straight beneath the rear bumper. Perfect. This is the case throughout the whole car. Even though there are some dings and small dents on the outer body, (nothing big) I have a feeling that the structure of this car is solid.
Why don't my license light work now? All I did was unplug them, switch bumpers, and re-plug them in. What is the breakdown of the build numbers on the Karmann plate, so I can figure out the actual build date? I've gone over the rear trunk, and I don't see any number stampings. Trunk looks solid, some surface rust, but no numbers. |
| Cal |
Jan 1 2016, 12:44 PM
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I'm flipping parts off of my other car onto this black car; the nicer bumpers, smalls, etc. The car was arrow straight beneath the rear bumper. Perfect. This is the case throughout the whole car. Even though there are some dings and small dents on the outer body, (nothing big) I have a feeling that the structure of this car is solid. Why don't my license light work now? All I did was unplug them, switch bumpers, and re-plug them in. What is the breakdown of the build numbers on the Karmann plate, so I can figure out the actual build date? I've gone over the rear trunk, and I don't see any number stampings. Trunk looks solid, some surface rust, but no numbers. Here you go...... http://bowlsby.net/914/CanAm/914LEAuthentication.htm |
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