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> Didnt I see a metal clutch pulley disk somewhere?, need a new one
stugray
post Jul 31 2016, 09:22 PM
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I had a race this weekend, and on the last lap of the last race I thought I snapped the clutch cable.
Pedal flopped to the floor and I couldnt get it into gear.
I was able to rev match it into 4th and nurse it all the way around the cool down lap and roll into my spot in the paddock, no-one but me the wiser...

Anyway I get underneath and the aftermarket black plastic clutch pulley had MELTED and folded over letting the cable slip off.

I have the kerry hunter-like headers where the 4-1 collector is basically right next to the clutch pulley.

So I will probably built a heatshield for the trans in that area AND replace the pulley.

But before I order another black plastic pulley, dont I recall seeing pictures of an aluminum or brass clutch pulley from somewhere?
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post Jul 31 2016, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(stugray @ Jul 31 2016, 08:22 PM) *

don't I recall seeing pictures of an aluminum or brass clutch pulley from somewhere?



Like this?


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post Aug 1 2016, 05:39 AM
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Guy on ebay is selling them with a bearing in the center for about $40.
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post Aug 1 2016, 08:18 AM
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Series9 (Joe O'Brien) is responsible for the original in my photo. I am confident he can make one for you.
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post Aug 1 2016, 08:30 AM
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QUOTE(stugray @ Jul 31 2016, 11:22 PM) *


I have the kerry hunter-like headers where the 4-1 collector is basically right next to the clutch pulley.

Kerry Hunter Headers collect on the driver's side.
Yours must be European Racing or the equivalent, which have much longer (40" vs. 32") primaries and have the collector pretty much right next to the pulley.
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post Aug 1 2016, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(914Sixer @ Aug 1 2016, 05:39 AM) *

Guy on ebay is selling them with a bearing in the center for about $40.


I cant find it, do you have a link?

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I have the kerry hunter-like headers where the 4-1 collector is basically right next to the clutch pulley.

Kerry Hunter Headers collect on the driver's side.
Yours must be European Racing or the equivalent, which have much longer (40" vs. 32") primaries and have the collector pretty much right next to the pulley.


Thanks! I have been wondering the exact model
Now if I could only find good exhaust gaskets that fit.
I make my own to fit the larger pipes, but they blow out too often.
I ordered a set for the 911 stubs, but they are about 3/16 inch smaller than the ID and I dont want a "reversion lip" on my stub pipes :-)
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post Aug 2 2016, 10:55 PM
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That's something racer Chris should make... hint... hint...
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post Aug 2 2016, 11:08 PM
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I sell the pulley in delrin with the new bushing for $16

http://shop.914rubber.com/914-Clutch-pulle...m?categoryId=-1

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post Aug 3 2016, 08:22 AM
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QUOTE(stugray @ Aug 2 2016, 12:33 AM) *


Thanks! I have been wondering the exact model
Now if I could only find good exhaust gaskets that fit.
I make my own to fit the larger pipes, but they blow out too often.
I ordered a set for the 911 stubs, but they are about 3/16 inch smaller than the ID and I dont want a "reversion lip" on my stub pipes :-)


On stubs and big flanges I don't even run gaskets. The flanges have to be at least 3/8" thick to do this without leaks.

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post Aug 3 2016, 08:29 AM
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QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Aug 2 2016, 11:08 PM) *

I sell the pulley in delrin with the new bushing for $16

http://shop.914rubber.com/914-Clutch-pulle...m?categoryId=-1


Yep! Yours was the one that melted. I learned over the weekend what the melting point of Delrin is (Hint ~350F).

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Thanks! I have been wondering the exact model
Now if I could only find good exhaust gaskets that fit.
I make my own to fit the larger pipes, but they blow out too often.
I ordered a set for the 911 stubs, but they are about 3/16 inch smaller than the ID and I dont want a "reversion lip" on my stub pipes :-)


On stubs and big flanges I don't even run gaskets. The flanges have to be at least 3/8" thick to do this without leaks.


Thanks, I might give that a try.
I have considered using the copper RTV that is supposed to be good to 700F, or cutting some gaskets out of just copper.
I wish I could just afford one of Cris's headers so I wont need gaskets ever again.

I still cant find the pulleys on ebay like 914sixer mentioned above
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post Aug 3 2016, 10:32 AM
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That's a bunch of heat. Yes metal would be the way to go,
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post Aug 3 2016, 11:38 AM
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I really can't imagine someone hasn't come up with a way to replace that wheel completely.
Putting a lever there with an adjustable rod on top that goes to the throw out bearing
and on the bottom of the lever a shorter cable that doesn't have to deal with the strain of turning on the wheel..
Or even fabricate a place on the bottom for a slave cylinder to make it hydraulic ??
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post Aug 3 2016, 02:05 PM
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Is there increased wear on the cable with a metal roller ?
I often wonder if a roller bearing may help even the plastic roller.
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post Aug 3 2016, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(stugray @ Aug 3 2016, 07:29 AM) *

QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Aug 2 2016, 11:08 PM) *

I sell the pulley in delrin with the new bushing for $16

http://shop.914rubber.com/914-Clutch-pulle...m?categoryId=-1


Yep! Yours was the one that melted. I learned over the weekend what the melting point of Delrin is (Hint ~350F).

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QUOTE(stugray @ Aug 2 2016, 12:33 AM) *


Thanks! I have been wondering the exact model
Now if I could only find good exhaust gaskets that fit.
I make my own to fit the larger pipes, but they blow out too often.
I ordered a set for the 911 stubs, but they are about 3/16 inch smaller than the ID and I dont want a "reversion lip" on my stub pipes :-)


On stubs and big flanges I don't even run gaskets. The flanges have to be at least 3/8" thick to do this without leaks.


Thanks, I might give that a try.
I have considered using the copper RTV that is supposed to be good to 700F, or cutting some gaskets out of just copper.
I wish I could just afford one of Cris's headers so I wont need gaskets ever again.

I still cant find the pulleys on ebay like 914sixer mentioned above


PM coming your way...
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post Aug 3 2016, 04:40 PM
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I wouldn't be too concerned about additional wear. Maybe, but instead of 5 years maybe you get 3?
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QUOTE(gandalf_025 @ Aug 3 2016, 10:38 AM) *

I really can't imagine someone hasn't come up with a way to replace that wheel completely.
Putting a lever there with an adjustable rod on top that goes to the throw out bearing
and on the bottom of the lever a shorter cable that doesn't have to deal with the strain of turning on the wheel..
Or even fabricate a place on the bottom for a slave cylinder to make it hydraulic ??

It can be done pretty easily, but it costs more to do than utilize an OEm set up. They are pretty bullet proof, and with a metal wheel should last forever. Just need to change out bearings.
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post Aug 7 2016, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Aug 3 2016, 08:22 AM) *

QUOTE(stugray @ Aug 2 2016, 12:33 AM) *


Thanks! I have been wondering the exact model
Now if I could only find good exhaust gaskets that fit.
I make my own to fit the larger pipes, but they blow out too often.
I ordered a set for the 911 stubs, but they are about 3/16 inch smaller than the ID and I dont want a "reversion lip" on my stub pipes :-)


On stubs and big flanges I don't even run gaskets. The flanges have to be at least 3/8" thick to do this without leaks.


I would try the no gasket method if the flanges were out of the car and I could sand both sides of the interface flat.
But since I dont want to remove the stubs from the car this time, I bought a sheet of 14 Ga soft copper and spent a couple hours making these:

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i366.photobucket.com-10819-1470592579.1.jpg)

In the pic you can see the stock 911 exhaust flange gaskets have an OD that is just smaller than I needed.
The lower gasket in the pic is sitting on top of one of the OEM gaskets so you can see that the ID was too small for my 1.5" pipes.

I'll sand them flat and anneal them before I try em.

As for the metal Pulley, I am waiting to see what Mueller can do for me when he returns from vacation.
Other than that I might take this opportunity to join my local maker-club (Longmont Tinkermill) where they have a full machine shop open 24/7 to members for $75 a month.
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As for the metal Pulley, I am waiting to see what Mueller can do for me when he returns from vacation.
Other than that I might take this opportunity to join my local maker-club (Longmont Tinkermill) where they have a full machine shop open 24/7 to members for $75 a month.


I wish we had something closer to join, nearest one is an hour away


That would have been cheaper than the $25K I just dropped a few weeks ago for my new equipment. At least I can just walk out to the garage only wearing my slippers and boxers and make some chips without getting in too much trouble.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

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QUOTE(Mueller @ Aug 7 2016, 12:07 PM) *

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As for the metal Pulley, I am waiting to see what Mueller can do for me when he returns from vacation.
Other than that I might take this opportunity to join my local maker-club (Longmont Tinkermill) where they have a full machine shop open 24/7 to members for $75 a month.


I wish we had something closer to join, nearest one is an hour away


That would have been cheaper than the $25K I just dropped a few weeks ago for my new equipment. At least I can just walk out to the garage only wearing my slippers and boxers and make some chips without getting in too much trouble.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)


Hey, it doesnt stop some people: (people of walmart)
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/autooverload.com-10819-1470593535.1.jpg)

My local tinkermill has laser cutting CNC routing & Mill, full electronics lab, welding shop, and even a foundry.
I could cast some Aluminum parts if I was really being inventive.
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