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| stugray |
Jul 31 2016, 09:22 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,825 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
I had a race this weekend, and on the last lap of the last race I thought I snapped the clutch cable.
Pedal flopped to the floor and I couldnt get it into gear. I was able to rev match it into 4th and nurse it all the way around the cool down lap and roll into my spot in the paddock, no-one but me the wiser... Anyway I get underneath and the aftermarket black plastic clutch pulley had MELTED and folded over letting the cable slip off. I have the kerry hunter-like headers where the 4-1 collector is basically right next to the clutch pulley. So I will probably built a heatshield for the trans in that area AND replace the pulley. But before I order another black plastic pulley, dont I recall seeing pictures of an aluminum or brass clutch pulley from somewhere? |
| VegasRacer |
Jul 31 2016, 10:54 PM
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ELVIRA ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,930 Joined: 27-March 03 From: Between Scylla and Charybdis Member No.: 481 Region Association: None
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don't I recall seeing pictures of an aluminum or brass clutch pulley from somewhere? Like this? Attached image(s)
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| 914Sixer |
Aug 1 2016, 05:39 AM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,453 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region
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Guy on ebay is selling them with a bearing in the center for about $40.
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| VegasRacer |
Aug 1 2016, 08:18 AM
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ELVIRA ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,930 Joined: 27-March 03 From: Between Scylla and Charybdis Member No.: 481 Region Association: None
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Series9 (Joe O'Brien) is responsible for the original in my photo. I am confident he can make one for you.
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| ChrisFoley |
Aug 1 2016, 08:30 AM
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I am Tangerine Racing ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,019 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None
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I have the kerry hunter-like headers where the 4-1 collector is basically right next to the clutch pulley. Kerry Hunter Headers collect on the driver's side. Yours must be European Racing or the equivalent, which have much longer (40" vs. 32") primaries and have the collector pretty much right next to the pulley. |
| stugray |
Aug 1 2016, 10:33 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,825 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
Guy on ebay is selling them with a bearing in the center for about $40. I cant find it, do you have a link? I have the kerry hunter-like headers where the 4-1 collector is basically right next to the clutch pulley. Kerry Hunter Headers collect on the driver's side. Yours must be European Racing or the equivalent, which have much longer (40" vs. 32") primaries and have the collector pretty much right next to the pulley. Thanks! I have been wondering the exact model Now if I could only find good exhaust gaskets that fit. I make my own to fit the larger pipes, but they blow out too often. I ordered a set for the 911 stubs, but they are about 3/16 inch smaller than the ID and I dont want a "reversion lip" on my stub pipes :-) |
| SKL1 |
Aug 2 2016, 10:55 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,778 Joined: 19-February 11 From: north Scottsdale Member No.: 12,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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That's something racer Chris should make... hint... hint...
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| Mikey914 |
Aug 2 2016, 11:08 PM
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The rubber man ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 12,772 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None
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I sell the pulley in delrin with the new bushing for $16
http://shop.914rubber.com/914-Clutch-pulle...m?categoryId=-1 |
| Mark Henry |
Aug 3 2016, 08:22 AM
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that's what I do! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Thanks! I have been wondering the exact model Now if I could only find good exhaust gaskets that fit. I make my own to fit the larger pipes, but they blow out too often. I ordered a set for the 911 stubs, but they are about 3/16 inch smaller than the ID and I dont want a "reversion lip" on my stub pipes :-) On stubs and big flanges I don't even run gaskets. The flanges have to be at least 3/8" thick to do this without leaks. |
| stugray |
Aug 3 2016, 08:29 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,825 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
I sell the pulley in delrin with the new bushing for $16 http://shop.914rubber.com/914-Clutch-pulle...m?categoryId=-1 Yep! Yours was the one that melted. I learned over the weekend what the melting point of Delrin is (Hint ~350F). Thanks! I have been wondering the exact model Now if I could only find good exhaust gaskets that fit. I make my own to fit the larger pipes, but they blow out too often. I ordered a set for the 911 stubs, but they are about 3/16 inch smaller than the ID and I dont want a "reversion lip" on my stub pipes :-) On stubs and big flanges I don't even run gaskets. The flanges have to be at least 3/8" thick to do this without leaks. Thanks, I might give that a try. I have considered using the copper RTV that is supposed to be good to 700F, or cutting some gaskets out of just copper. I wish I could just afford one of Cris's headers so I wont need gaskets ever again. I still cant find the pulleys on ebay like 914sixer mentioned above |
| Mikey914 |
Aug 3 2016, 10:32 AM
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The rubber man ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 12,772 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None
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That's a bunch of heat. Yes metal would be the way to go,
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| gandalf_025 |
Aug 3 2016, 11:38 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,516 Joined: 25-June 09 From: North Shore, Massachusetts Member No.: 10,509 Region Association: North East States |
I really can't imagine someone hasn't come up with a way to replace that wheel completely.
Putting a lever there with an adjustable rod on top that goes to the throw out bearing and on the bottom of the lever a shorter cable that doesn't have to deal with the strain of turning on the wheel.. Or even fabricate a place on the bottom for a slave cylinder to make it hydraulic ?? |
| porschetub |
Aug 3 2016, 02:05 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,064 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
Is there increased wear on the cable with a metal roller ?
I often wonder if a roller bearing may help even the plastic roller. |
| Mueller |
Aug 3 2016, 02:05 PM
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914 Freak! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,155 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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I sell the pulley in delrin with the new bushing for $16 http://shop.914rubber.com/914-Clutch-pulle...m?categoryId=-1 Yep! Yours was the one that melted. I learned over the weekend what the melting point of Delrin is (Hint ~350F). Thanks! I have been wondering the exact model Now if I could only find good exhaust gaskets that fit. I make my own to fit the larger pipes, but they blow out too often. I ordered a set for the 911 stubs, but they are about 3/16 inch smaller than the ID and I dont want a "reversion lip" on my stub pipes :-) On stubs and big flanges I don't even run gaskets. The flanges have to be at least 3/8" thick to do this without leaks. Thanks, I might give that a try. I have considered using the copper RTV that is supposed to be good to 700F, or cutting some gaskets out of just copper. I wish I could just afford one of Cris's headers so I wont need gaskets ever again. I still cant find the pulleys on ebay like 914sixer mentioned above PM coming your way... |
| Mikey914 |
Aug 3 2016, 04:40 PM
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The rubber man ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 12,772 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None
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I wouldn't be too concerned about additional wear. Maybe, but instead of 5 years maybe you get 3?
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| Mikey914 |
Aug 3 2016, 04:47 PM
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The rubber man ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 12,772 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None
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I really can't imagine someone hasn't come up with a way to replace that wheel completely. Putting a lever there with an adjustable rod on top that goes to the throw out bearing and on the bottom of the lever a shorter cable that doesn't have to deal with the strain of turning on the wheel.. Or even fabricate a place on the bottom for a slave cylinder to make it hydraulic ?? It can be done pretty easily, but it costs more to do than utilize an OEm set up. They are pretty bullet proof, and with a metal wheel should last forever. Just need to change out bearings. |
| stugray |
Aug 7 2016, 11:56 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,825 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
Thanks! I have been wondering the exact model Now if I could only find good exhaust gaskets that fit. I make my own to fit the larger pipes, but they blow out too often. I ordered a set for the 911 stubs, but they are about 3/16 inch smaller than the ID and I dont want a "reversion lip" on my stub pipes :-) On stubs and big flanges I don't even run gaskets. The flanges have to be at least 3/8" thick to do this without leaks. I would try the no gasket method if the flanges were out of the car and I could sand both sides of the interface flat. But since I dont want to remove the stubs from the car this time, I bought a sheet of 14 Ga soft copper and spent a couple hours making these: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i366.photobucket.com-10819-1470592579.1.jpg) In the pic you can see the stock 911 exhaust flange gaskets have an OD that is just smaller than I needed. The lower gasket in the pic is sitting on top of one of the OEM gaskets so you can see that the ID was too small for my 1.5" pipes. I'll sand them flat and anneal them before I try em. As for the metal Pulley, I am waiting to see what Mueller can do for me when he returns from vacation. Other than that I might take this opportunity to join my local maker-club (Longmont Tinkermill) where they have a full machine shop open 24/7 to members for $75 a month. |
| Mueller |
Aug 7 2016, 12:07 PM
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914 Freak! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,155 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(stugray) As for the metal Pulley, I am waiting to see what Mueller can do for me when he returns from vacation. Other than that I might take this opportunity to join my local maker-club (Longmont Tinkermill) where they have a full machine shop open 24/7 to members for $75 a month. I wish we had something closer to join, nearest one is an hour away That would have been cheaper than the $25K I just dropped a few weeks ago for my new equipment. At least I can just walk out to the garage only wearing my slippers and boxers and make some chips without getting in too much trouble.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) |
| stugray |
Aug 7 2016, 12:12 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,825 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
QUOTE As for the metal Pulley, I am waiting to see what Mueller can do for me when he returns from vacation. Other than that I might take this opportunity to join my local maker-club (Longmont Tinkermill) where they have a full machine shop open 24/7 to members for $75 a month. I wish we had something closer to join, nearest one is an hour away That would have been cheaper than the $25K I just dropped a few weeks ago for my new equipment. At least I can just walk out to the garage only wearing my slippers and boxers and make some chips without getting in too much trouble.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) Hey, it doesnt stop some people: (people of walmart) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/autooverload.com-10819-1470593535.1.jpg) My local tinkermill has laser cutting CNC routing & Mill, full electronics lab, welding shop, and even a foundry. I could cast some Aluminum parts if I was really being inventive. |
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