Fat Performance Engine Rebuilders, 911 vs 914 Comparison- A Great Read Options

[horizontally-opposed]

Ah, the endless /4 and /6 debate.

I like my Porch with 6 Cylinders ...
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But that's inline 6 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

With square cylinders! I think Andy has been huffing too much race gas—or do you have an innovation you'd like to share with us?

[sixnotfour]

my first 914 was a 914-6.....1978.....no debate for me

[horizontally-opposed]

Ah, the endless /4 and /6 debate. Why not split the difference? Polo powered.

Cost no object, this is the "4" I wanted to build. But it looked like about $30k—plus installation. Still love the concept, but not sure I could bring myself to replace my 2.2 six with a Polo four. I'm sure it can match the power at less weight, but there is just something about the sound and smoothness of a flat six…

[SirAndy]

With square cylinders! ... do you have an innovation you'd like to share with us?

It's a 6²
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[Mark Henry]

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I never did or will say the /4 is a bad choice, I stated there's a price point where the /4 is no longer the best choice.

There's a member here who bought a full on Raby engine, he was happy with it, but after a few years he realized he really wanted a six, so he sold it and has installed a 3.2. I know he must have lost coin on that deal.

Tom I'm not going to read that novel, too busy prepping a 996 engine for an LN 3.8 upgrade. But from what I did read on your opinion of the six I'd have to say you have absolutely no real experience to form an opinion.
Your views on the six is stuck in the late 60's/early 70's at best.

I'm done, no need to write another novel, I wont reply to it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)

[My 914]

I printed and read the original link on this post today. Its well done and I think good reading for any 914 enthusiast!

[Coondog]

I met with Greg in Feb 2016 to work out a plan for my 1.8. Cost to include trans rebuild by Rancho Trans would have been in the 16,000 range. Even back then Greg said they were winding down operations.

Met with Renagade in Vegas and was given a starting cost of 40,000...

Ended up at PMS in Phoenix. Twice the cost of Fat but it's a Real Six....3.2 motor
Only time will tell if it's worth it.......... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) Of course it is.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Tom_T]

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I never did or will say the /4 is a bad choice, I stated there's a price point where the /4 is no longer the best choice.

There's a member here who bought a full on Raby engine, he was happy with it, but after a few years he realized he really wanted a six, so he sold it and has installed a 3.2. I know he must have lost coin on that deal.

Tom I'm not going to read that novel, too busy prepping a 996 engine for an LN 3.8 upgrade. But from what I did read on your opinion of the six I'd have to say you have absolutely no real experience to form an opinion.
Your views on the six is stuck in the late 60's/early 70's at best.

I'm done, no need to write another novel, I wont reply to it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)

MArk - the price point is no where near where you say it is at $20K, & you are too full of yourself if you think that I have no basis for an opinion, based on 3 people working on 914s since you were in short pants - one of which was factory trained on them.

I AM entitled to my opinion, & was respectful with you towards yours.

So try being respectful in turn pal!

Tom
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[Mark Henry]

H'okay then.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

[r_towle]

With square cylinders! ... do you have an innovation you'd like to share with us?

It's a 6²
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Off centered ......bugging me

[yellow75]

The comparison is interesting. I'm fortunate enough to have an original factory -6, a converted, flared -6 conversion with a Supertec built 2.7, and a 911 Carrera 3.2.

The original -6 definitely feels the lightest (really an adult's go cart), the 3.2 Carrera the most luxuriest (though with too many electric motors running everything), but the 2.7 conversion is the real beast. 200 rwhp in a mid engined chassis will put a big smile on anyone's face and the increased torque of the 2.7 makes it a breeze to drive.

They're all different but I'd have a tough time parting with any of them!

Henry builds a mean motor..

[914_7T3]

As per my conversation with Greg at Fat Performance earlier today, Dennis at Rimco will be continuing the operations of Fat Performance. Greg is staying on in a supervisory capacity and getting the new group up to speed as is Ron.

Spent a considerable amount of time discussing an engine rebuild and their knowledge base is impressive and the initial price range estimated seems reasonable as well for this type of work.

So the mystery is solved.

[pete-stevers]

No debate for me either!!
My first 914 was a 2.0 four... My love increased many times over when I installed a big port 3.0 in it(lost it in a fire).... now I am slowly collecting parts for my second 914/3.0 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[Tom_T]

A couple of other interesting articles from FAT Performance:

"Miguel Campero Cuena Wins His Class At The Carrera Panamericana":
http://fatperformance.com/home/?p=521

"Congratulations to the Kellogg Motorsports Team!":
http://fatperformance.com/home/?p=673

And Ron's VW Drag Racing:
http://fatperformance.com/home/?cat=3

... per the above article & the T-IV info at the FAT link below, I stand corrected on 2770cc being the max FAT T-IV build - it's actually now punched out to a full 3L!

Of course I have "no basis" to know whatsoever, & it was probably built 18 months ago, & they probably should've used a Porsche flat 6 instead too! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

But they do! .... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

About FAT:
http://fatperformance.com/home/?page_id=97

All Porsche Engines 4 & 6:
http://fatperformance.com/home/?page_id=81

T-IVs:
http://fatperformance.com/home/?page_id=51

Enjoy the Reading Materials, for those who can! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
Tom
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[kgruen2]

Nice read. I've got a Raby 2270 in '73 2.0 w/ EMPI 44 carbs. Put out 178 HP @ 6800 RPM on dyno. Put on stock 2.0 Heat exchangers (cause I'm a Wuss and need a heater) with Borla dual tip exhaust. Probably 150-160 hp at the wheels. Sounds great and great fun to drive, especially in the 4-6000 rpm range.

[larryM]

Enjoy the Below Blog

http://fatperformance.com/home/?p=681

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very well written, and a powerful argument for why we should all just buy a 3.2 Carrera instead of spending $30K or more creating conversion 914-6 or big -4 toys

i would, if i didn't already have 4 sports cars i hardly ever drive;

and i sorely lament that i sold my '75 Targa 6 yrs ago for a paltry $6800

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[SirAndy]

and i sorely lament that i sold my '75 Targa 6 yrs ago for a paltry $6800

Well, if you ever want to sell your GT, i'll give you twice that!
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