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kenshapiro2002
post Oct 10 2009, 06:38 PM
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My oil breather hose just dead ends in my cooling "well". What a decent, affordable (like $50 or less) breather box that I can just vent into the atmosphere of the engine bay, pulling off the oil and not throwing it into my engine?
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post Oct 10 2009, 08:12 PM
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a decent, affordable (like $50 or less) breather box that I can just vent into the atmosphere of the engine bay

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Why spend any money at all? Next time you change the oil just save one bottle to route the hose into. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

(yes, I am being sarcastic)
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post Oct 10 2009, 08:47 PM
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you can get little empi breathers for not much, look at vw places. I'll see if I have a pic of mine...
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post Oct 10 2009, 08:51 PM
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here's the best pic I could find, I have the head venst and the vent for the oil breather going into it, on the firewall(though I will probably move it to the back wall of the engine bay)


here's a similar one:
http://www.vwparts.net/mm5/merchant.mvc?Sc...amp;range_high=


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post Oct 10 2009, 09:30 PM
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Why would you want to move it to the back wall?
By head vents, are you talking about vented valve covers?

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here's the best pic I could find, I have the head venst and the vent for the oil breather going into it, on the firewall(though I will probably move it to the back wall of the engine bay)


here's a similar one:
http://www.vwparts.net/mm5/merchant.mvc?Sc...amp;range_high=
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post Oct 10 2009, 11:30 PM
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Why would you want to move it to the back wall?
By head vents, are you talking about vented valve covers?


Its less obtrusive when located at the back.

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On some engines, there are 1/2" dia. vent tubes on the heads, next to the intake ports.
The stock location is the best place to add them if your engine doesn't already have them, but it is a bit of work, especially when done with the engine installed.
Sometimes vents are added to the valve covers but they are below the tin so hose routing is a challenge.
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post Oct 11 2009, 07:23 AM
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Gotcha...thanks. Guess my engine has no vent tubes. Hey.....did you clean all the baked beans outta that can before you started welding on it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

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QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Oct 10 2009, 10:30 PM) *

Why would you want to move it to the back wall?
By head vents, are you talking about vented valve covers?


Its less obtrusive when located at the back.

(IMG:http://www.tangerineracing.com/images/EnginePics/BreatherCanInstalled.jpg)

On some engines, there are 1/2" dia. vent tubes on the heads, next to the intake ports.
The stock location is the best place to add them if your engine doesn't already have them, but it is a bit of work, especially when done with the engine installed.
Sometimes vents are added to the valve covers but they are below the tin so hose routing is a challenge.
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post Oct 11 2009, 09:36 AM
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my reason for moving it to the back is so I can put new insulation on the firewall. pretty simple.
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post Oct 11 2009, 09:39 AM
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Gotcha...thanks. Guess my engine has no vent tubes. Hey.....did you clean all the baked beans outta that can before you started welding on it?

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My "baked beans" make Tangerine Racing Breather Cans more efficient at separating oil from the crankcase vapors, and returning them to the engine automatically, than any other product on the market.
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You should seriously consider adding vents to the top of your cylinder heads.
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post Oct 11 2009, 11:51 AM
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I have no insulation on my firewall.


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my reason for moving it to the back is so I can put new insulation on the firewall. pretty simple.
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post Oct 11 2009, 11:52 AM
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How do I do that while the engien is installed without getting shit in the engine?

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QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Oct 11 2009, 08:23 AM) *

Gotcha...thanks. Guess my engine has no vent tubes. Hey.....did you clean all the baked beans outta that can before you started welding on it?

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
My "baked beans" make Tangerine Racing Breather Cans more efficient at separating oil from the crankcase vapors, and returning them to the engine automatically, than any other product on the market.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

You should seriously consider adding vents to the top of your cylinder heads.
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post Oct 11 2009, 01:03 PM
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you can vent the valve covers with fittings, which isn't quite as good, but I have seen it. other than that, you would have to drop the engine, pull the heads and have a machine shop put the fitting in the proper head spot.
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post Oct 11 2009, 02:02 PM
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I've drilled and tapped the heads with the engine assembled but not installed. You need to be careful when the drill drops thru not to hit the valve spring and to keep chips out of the engine.
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post Oct 11 2009, 02:25 PM
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Yeah? How does one pull that off?



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I've drilled and tapped the heads with the engine assembled but not installed. You need to be careful when the drill drops thru not to hit the valve spring and to keep chips out of the engine.
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post Oct 11 2009, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Oct 10 2009, 06:12 PM) *

Why spend any money at all? Next time you change the oil just save one bottle to route the hose into. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

What? You don't like my Gatorade bottle ??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)



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QUOTE(ejm @ Oct 11 2009, 01:02 PM) *
I've drilled and tapped the heads with the engine assembled but not installed. You need to be careful when the drill drops thru not to hit the valve spring and to keep chips out of the engine.
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BTDT Pull the motor. Pop the valve covers off. Drill the head. Insert tube or thread the hole for pipe thread and screw in a fitting. On mine the hole I drilled ended up being a just a little too large for a true press fit. I used a piece of 7/16 or 1/2" (I can't remember exactly now) stainless steel tube. Mixed up a little JB weld and spread on the tube where it fit into the hole and then formed a very small bead around the tube at the top of the head. Done.

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I've drilled and tapped the heads with the engine assembled but not installed. You need to be careful when the drill drops thru not to hit the valve spring and to keep chips out of the engine.
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Yeah? How does one pull that off?
With the valve covers off and the motor put of the car it's easy to keep crap out of the heads while drilling. But watch that valve spring. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I had to replace one of those while I was at it because I hit one with the drill bit.
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post Oct 11 2009, 04:57 PM
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Looks better than that bean can. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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Why spend any money at all? Next time you change the oil just save one bottle to route the hose into. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

What? You don't like my Gatorade bottle ??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Oct 11 2009, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Oct 11 2009, 05:57 PM) *

Looks better than that bean can. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Looks like you have your solution.
You'll have money left over for a wash and wax too.
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I'm just gonna stick a filtered cigarette on the end of the hose.

Seriously...since my heads aren't vented, I'm just looking for for a catch-all for the end of my filler vent hose that will vent to the atmosphere. Is there a specific breather can that just has a single entry point or do I need to block off some? I;m guessing Ill wind up with an EMPI type breather can.


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QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Oct 11 2009, 05:57 PM) *

Looks better than that bean can. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Looks like you have your solution.
You'll have money left over for a wash and wax too.
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I think you'll have to block off some.
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