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| underthetire |
 Oct 30 2009, 02:50 PM
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914 Guru  Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California  |
If i could get the smell out of the snake oil then maybe ?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif)
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| SirAndy |
Oct 30 2009, 03:00 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,651 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(underthetire @ Oct 30 2009, 12:50 PM)  If i could get the smell out of the snake oil then maybe ?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif) Maybe if you hook up a saltwater snake to your battery? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) That ought to produce some oil ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy |
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| dlestep |
Oct 30 2009, 03:59 PM
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I am smilin'... Group: Members Posts: 890 Joined: 15-January 08 From: Sunrise Florida Member No.: 8,573 Region Association: South East States |
...the steel unibody is used as the ground plane.
If the body could be isolated from current flow using isolated ground bus bars, strapped together from say... front trunk (G1a), (G1b); cabin (G2), (G3a); engine bay (G3b), (G3c), and trunk, (G4)... It would look something like this: (G1a) Left side: lighting; brake circuit; ground bus... (G1b) Right side: lighting; fuel pump; ground bus... (G2) fuse bus; power distribution; lighting; ground bus... (G3a) Left side: Power distribution; relay board; ground bus... (G3b) Ignition; Engine block; transaxle; ground bus... (G3c) Charging system; ground bus... (G4) Brake; Lighting; ground bus... (G1b)---- ..................----(G3c)--- ------------|--(G2)----|----(G3b)---|-------(G4) (G1a)---- .................----(G3a)--- lights ........instru.........engine........transaxle/ lights power distribution layout would look similar, but carries with it a whole slew of requirements....isolatation of ignition.... isolation of power distribution for lighting/radio/ancillaries... It would eliminate cross over, but one would have to use shielding to keep some of the wiring from becoming an antenna, and those shields would be grounded as well. It could be made into seven trees... have I gone off center with this...? |
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| Strudelwagon |
Oct 30 2009, 04:42 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 411 Joined: 11-October 08 From: interior, British Columbia Member No.: 9,633 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Oct 30 2009, 02:00 PM) QUOTE(underthetire @ Oct 30 2009, 12:50 PM) If i could get the smell out of the snake oil then maybe ?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif) Maybe if you hook up a saltwater snake to your battery? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) That ought to produce some oil ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy No Andy, I think that would produce some STATIC with the PITA folks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) Seriously, no amount of static is going to change the millions of galvanic corrosion cells happening on a piece of bare metal. It's all happening at an intergranular level. Your only hope is to remove one component of the corrosion cel. (the electrolyte) this is done with coatings. If the metal can't touch the electrolyte then the FE++ ions can't transfer through it. don't even get me going on the anode cathode relationship. If this magic thing has been around for 20+ years it's because there really is a sucker born every minute. SW |
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| jmill |
Oct 30 2009, 10:20 PM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I know anodes are in use in the gas industry for pipe runs. I use them in my day job in the electric industry. We use anodes for direct buried cable. They are also in use on outboards, and oil/water coolers. But yeah, I suppose it wouldn't work on a car unless you drove in a ground rod and ran an extension cord.
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| zx-niner |
Oct 30 2009, 11:29 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 294 Joined: 13-June 05 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 4,269 Region Association: Central California |
QUOTE(Strudelwagon @ Oct 30 2009, 08:16 AM) The short answer is (IC) impressed current systems don't work on vehicles.(unless you dig a hole,drive them in and cover them over in dirt or submerge them in salt water) not recommended! CP/IC (Cathodic Protection/Impressed Current) is my day job at the gas utility I work for. SW Absolutely right. Without an electrolyte impressed current systems do not work. Moist soil plays the role of an electrolyte for pipelines. And even there the first line of defense against corrosion is the pipe coating. The impressed current travels along the pipeline through the electrolyte trying to find a path to ground back through the pipeline. As it does complete the circuit, the anode corrodes instead of the steel. |
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| Dr Evil |
Oct 31 2009, 01:45 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,000 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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I am holding out for the fuel magnet that aligns my fuel molecules so that I can get 200% more fuel mileage. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/14.gif)
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