has anyone done their own powdercoating?, with their own powdercoating sprayer.. |
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has anyone done their own powdercoating?, with their own powdercoating sprayer.. |
SECHSER |
Dec 1 2009, 03:53 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 5-March 06 From: smell A Member No.: 5,669 Region Association: Southern California |
so i'm thinking about buying my own powder coating sprayer and do it myself. i'm eyeing on this $69.99 unit from harbor freight http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/disp...temnumber=94244 then i'm going to get an used electric kitchen stove/ oven unit to bake my parts.. anyone's ever done it this way? curious to see if it's easy enough for me to do all that myself.
thank you all in advance for your input (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
SECHSER |
Dec 1 2009, 12:42 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 5-March 06 From: smell A Member No.: 5,669 Region Association: Southern California |
so i'm thinking about buying my own powder coating sprayer and do it myself. i'm eyeing on this $69.99 unit from harbor freight http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/disp...temnumber=94244 then i'm going to get an used electric kitchen stove/ oven unit to bake my parts.. anyone's ever done it this way? curious to see if it's easy enough for me to do all that myself. thank you all in advance for your input (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Find the HF 20% off coupon on line. Even cheaper! wow that rock! thanks for the tip, i'm so there!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
zymurgist |
Dec 1 2009, 12:44 PM
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"Ace" Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 7,411 Joined: 9-June 05 From: Hagerstown, MD Member No.: 4,238 Region Association: None |
Re getting parts into the oven: I use baling wire to hang my parts from an oven rack, and shoot the powder while they are hanging from the rack. Then I just move the rack into the hot oven and bake them. Ta daaa!
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SECHSER |
Dec 1 2009, 12:47 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 5-March 06 From: smell A Member No.: 5,669 Region Association: Southern California |
Re getting parts into the oven: I use baling wire to hang my parts from an oven rack, and shoot the powder while they are hanging from the rack. Then I just move the rack into the hot oven and bake them. Ta daaa! that's a very smart idea!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) i'll def keep that in mind, thanks!! |
underthetire |
Dec 1 2009, 01:05 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
I have a 20% coupon in PDF if you want it.
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McMark |
Dec 1 2009, 01:06 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
My wooden oven works great. You can build it for any size you want and only costs $50 or so.
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SECHSER |
Dec 1 2009, 01:08 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 5-March 06 From: smell A Member No.: 5,669 Region Association: Southern California |
I have a 20% coupon in PDF if you want it. oh sheah!! i thought it was just on their website. i've been searching for it all this time... lol sure, i'll pm you my email. thanks again!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) |
SECHSER |
Dec 1 2009, 01:12 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 5-March 06 From: smell A Member No.: 5,669 Region Association: Southern California |
My wooden oven works great. You can build it for any size you want and only costs $50 or so. wow! $50?? how do you do that?!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) |
underthetire |
Dec 1 2009, 01:22 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
My wooden oven works great. You can build it for any size you want and only costs $50 or so. Ya, c'mon, spill it man ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) |
zymurgist |
Dec 1 2009, 01:27 PM
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"Ace" Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 7,411 Joined: 9-June 05 From: Hagerstown, MD Member No.: 4,238 Region Association: None |
Re getting parts into the oven: I use baling wire to hang my parts from an oven rack, and shoot the powder while they are hanging from the rack. Then I just move the rack into the hot oven and bake them. Ta daaa! that's a very smart idea!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) i'll def keep that in mind, thanks!! No problem! When shooting the powder, I put the rack across the top of 2 sawhorses. That allows good access to the parts. |
Elliot Cannon |
Dec 1 2009, 01:56 PM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None |
I don't do much powder coating and don't have room for a big oven but there is a shop here in Paso Robles that has ovens big enough to do an entire truck frame. If I need something done, I take it there. I understand you can also use a cheap toaster oven for small items.
Cheers, Elliot |
underthetire |
Dec 1 2009, 02:00 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
Been doin a little reading on it . Guess you can actually use a couple of those 500 watt halogen work lights too. I'm thinking modifying an old file cabinet with those in it.
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Bartlett 914 |
Dec 1 2009, 03:20 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,216 Joined: 30-August 05 From: South Elgin IL Member No.: 4,707 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I hope this isn't too much of a hijack but..... what temperature do we need to properly cure the power coat and for how long do you need to hold it?
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biosurfer1 |
Dec 1 2009, 03:26 PM
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Teener fo Life! Group: Members Posts: 3,020 Joined: 3-August 03 From: Roseville, CA Member No.: 977 Region Association: Northern California |
according to the eastwood video, 20 minutes past the point where the powder turns to liquid...at 400 degrees
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SECHSER |
Dec 1 2009, 03:28 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 5-March 06 From: smell A Member No.: 5,669 Region Association: Southern California |
I hope this isn't too much of a hijack but..... what temperature do we need to properly cure the power coat and for how long do you need to hold it? oh not at all! i was asking the same question in one of my replies too. the HF powder coating oven has a max of 480 degrees, so sure sounds to me a regular cooking oven could do the job.. |
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Dec 1 2009, 03:29 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 5-March 06 From: smell A Member No.: 5,669 Region Association: Southern California |
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Dec 1 2009, 03:30 PM
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Gint |
Dec 1 2009, 04:12 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,083 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I hope this isn't too much of a hijack but..... what temperature do we need to properly cure the power coat and for how long do you need to hold it? oh not at all! i was asking the same question in one of my replies too. the HF powder coating oven has a max of 480 degrees, so sure sounds to me a regular cooking oven could do the job.. You need to read the data sheet that comes with the powder. Different manufacturers recommend different temperatures. I've seen 375 to 425. I've used Eastwood's powder, Columbia Coatings and one other whose name escapes me at the moment. And I use an standard kitchen electric oven I bought for $15 at a garage sale. And you can fit a control arm in a standard oven. BTDT |
McMark |
Dec 1 2009, 05:30 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
2x4 framing. Plywood box. Mineral Wool insulation (2" thick sheets, good to 1200 degrees). A scrap of sheet metal on the bottom (unnecessary?). And a standard oven heating element.
The only complaint I have is that I never acquired a thermostat, so I have to manually regulate the temperature any flipping the switch on and off. But it only has to stay around 400 (give or take 50) for a few minutes, so it's not that bad. Oh, and there is a 2" vent hole drilled in the top. Some sites I read said that venting the gasses was a good idea. Can't say one way or the other, I just did it in case. The outside of the box doesn't get hot AT ALL. In fact, you can't even tell it's on by touch. I hang the parts from the rod inside. I read the temperature from a BBQ thermometer that pokes through the door (look close in the pics). If you get creative with hanging things at different heights, you can really cram a lot of stuff in there. Or buy a wire cooling rack to give you a grid to hang even more stuff from. As mentioned above, I built mine specifically to hold a trailing arm. It's about 4' cube, IIRC. You can build something bigger and add more heating elements. Build this thing at your own risk. You can catch things on fire, electrocute yourself, among other things. Attached image(s) |
Mark Henry |
Dec 1 2009, 05:38 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Is that UL approved? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
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Pat Garvey |
Dec 1 2009, 06:47 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
Many of you knew this was coming....
Bah! Humbug! Powder coating is for wusses. Instantly recogognizable as non-factory. Other than that, OK on parts that recieve no punishment from the road, but has problems where it gets hit with rubble & difficult to remove. I would just ask this question - why deviate from a factory finish? Pat |
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