WOT: Jets at she pretty, we got pistons already Options

[Elliot Cannon]

The Airbus is indeed a POS. (Just my opinion but also that of many others). If you get a chance to fly on one, try to sit just aft of the trailing edge of the wing. Take a good look at how it's built when the flaps come down and the spoilers deploy. Then do the same thing on a Boeing. The Boeing looks like it was made by "Boeing Bridge Works". The Airbus looks like it was made at Lego Land.

About the only thing Airbus got right is the number of motors for long over water flights. You lose and engine half way to HNL on a 777, you are now a lot lower and slower than before. The water can get a little chilly and the fish are bigger than you are.

That is indeed a T33. You don't need a modern super-sonic jet to chase an airliner.

[messix]

areoshit is like riding in a busted up city bus and any boeing is like riding a tour bus. jmho!

i flew into denver one july day that had a little thunder storm and landed [if you call that landing] in a320 what a piece of shit! the thing was just one big rattle and i thought the damn thing was gonna come apart!

flew a 777 home and hit bad turbulance right out of denver and it took it like a range rover over speed bumps.

[6freak]

I dont know if they(Airbus) shotpeen J.P ...none on this aircraft! all other Boeing aircraft wingskins and some of the double plus cords,spars did as well! as far as $ Its gonna take some years to make said nickel....first one going to All Nippon

There is a lot of shot peened titanium on that airplane. I've had my grubby mitts all over em'.

I guess there would be some,and if you say there is i have to believe you.I`ll take a close look in the next few days and see if i can find some .What parts did you work on

[6freak]

T-38

we have one of these as well ,That prolly were i got the T-38 idea ...the other chase planes T33 or T34 whatever it may be looks alot like that but i dont remember the intakes looking quit like that but it sure could be one of those.I walk right by it today too..Ill find out for sure monday and take the ? mark away ...as far as why we use such old plane is because there always being taken apart and new electronics put into them in many configurations theres actually 3 of them ,blue &white ,red&white ,and just plan gray..and there cheap and we have a ton of parts for them ..Just a guess ,,Ill try to get some pictures if they will let me

[6freak]

areoshit is like riding in a busted up city bus and any boeing is like riding a tour bus. jmho!

i flew into denver one july day that had a little thunder storm and landed [if you call that landing] in a320 what a piece of shit! the thing was just one big rattle and i thought the damn thing was gonna come apart!

flew a 777 home and hit bad turbulance right out of denver and it took it like a range rover over speed bumps.

Size does matter...lol

[6freak]

The Airbus is indeed a POS. (Just my opinion but also that of many others). If you get a chance to fly on one, try to sit just aft of the trailing edge of the wing. Take a good look at how it's built when the flaps come down and the spoilers deploy. Then do the same thing on a Boeing. The Boeing looks like it was made by "Boeing Bridge Works". The Airbus looks like it was made at Lego Land.

About the only thing Airbus got right is the number of motors for long over water flights. You lose and engine half way to HNL on a 777, you are now a lot lower and slower than before. The water can get a little chilly and the fish are bigger than you are.

That is indeed a T33. You don't need a modern super-sonic jet to chase an airliner.

Its my understanding Elliot and ive seen it more then one time" but maybe not heavy" that all Boeing twine engine Aircraft can takeoff and land on a single engine fully loaded? I thought it was a requirement for FAA certs

[Todd Enlund]

first flight and of course landing
she `s BIG

Note the shark tooth nacell(engine cowl)..and the flex in the wings
the new 747-8 wings will flex even more

That is a pretty bird. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

And Mr. Sprinkle is correct... Lockheed T-33. RCAF is still flying them in military service.

Back in 1969, five days after my fourth birthday, my mom and I stood in our front yard in Navy housing at Paine Field, 1500 feet from the end of the runway, and watched the first 747 take off. That was awesome. The chase plane for the 747 program was a beautiful North American F-86 Sabre:

[6freak]

that plane cant fly...... ITS TOO BIG

[Dr Evil]

Man, I wish I could find the image of a jumbo jet in a hanger with the wing flexed at about a 90* and not breaking. I saw it in a magazine and I think it was about the 787s wing construction.

[Dr Evil]

This is close, but the one I saw was more profound.

[Dr Evil]

Here is a good video (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...t%3D36%26um%3D1

[Elliot Cannon]

I met one of the original 747 test pilots about 25 years ago. The engines on the first 747s had a problem catching fire. It was one of the only jet engines that hadn't been first used by the military. It was basically brand new. He had a standing order for his crew that if the egt reached a certain temp. they where to shut the engine down immediately. No questions. No check list. Just shut the sucker down.
I found out later that this same test pilot had served with my uncle in WWII after he flew Spitfires in the Eagle Squadron in England.
Flying the "whale" was the highlight of my career and it was the most pleasant and easy airplane to fly. We had the seventh one ever built at UPS. We finaly retired it and I got to watch them chop it up for scrap on the internet. Not pleasant to see. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[Mikey914]

I think they'll make alot of money on these once they've, got the logistics figured out. The payload is better and the fuel burn better, that's enough to drive the customers right to them.

As far as the Scarebus goes, no thanks.
Remember the one that crashed in the ocean off Brazil? Suposedly there's an issue Airbus denies, but it was aggravated by the fact they were in severe turbulence at 39,000.

Boeing for the most part makes a very good product, and if they can deliver on their promises, this will be very profitable for them.

[Bartlett 914]

I think they'll make alot of money on these once they've, got the logistics figured out. The payload is better and the fuel burn better, that's enough to drive the customers right to them.

As far as the Scarebus goes, no thanks.
Remember the one that crashed in the ocean off Brazil? Suposedly there's an issue Airbus denies, but it was aggravated by the fact they were in severe turbulence at 39,000.

Boeing for the most part makes a very good product, and if they can deliver on their promises, this will be very profitable for them.

Wasn't it an airbus in New Jersey that lost it's tail and crashed? I believe the fault was pilot error. He was correcting too much and shook the tail off.

[6freak]

Most are pilot error..like the A320 that dumped during an airshow ..if i knew how to post vids we could all see it again....How about the women pilot that was trying to land in Germany in a severe side wind and scraped the lift wing on the ground ..aborted the landing and came around again and made it ...good work on her part

[Todd Enlund]

Wasn't it an airbus in New Jersey that lost it's tail and crashed? I believe the fault was pilot error. He was correcting too much and shook the tail off.

So they say... but the Airbus vertical stab is weak. The rudder should not be able to rip the stab off... and it's happened more than once. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

[davesprinkle]

T34

[davesprinkle]

Oh. Wait. Wrong T34. Try again.

[campbellcj]

Boeing is one of my customers and Airbus is not, but I've gotta say that as a passenger (and I fly a lot) I find the A32x planes to be a bit quieter and "more comfortable" than the 757. They both get the job done.

I recently did some long international trips on 3-cabin premium 767's and 777's though, and those planes were darn nice equipment.

[J P Stein]

The 747 is legend around here for a number of reasons.

During static must the wing must not fail at 150% of calculated load. Once they get there they used to bend it to failure. On the whale, legend has it, it went to the 150% then they kept going till *they ran out of travel* on their test rig......ah, shit. It took 13 saw cuts in the lower skin to get it to break. That same wing makes the 747 the fastest commercial airliner....less the SST.

Mike:
Bits you should never see, torque tubes.