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> WOT: Jets at she pretty, we got pistons already
DNHunt
post Dec 20 2009, 10:00 AM
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I think that thing needs an Engman stiffening kit. No offense you guys but, seeing the wings flex like that would make me nervous. It kind of reminds me of a bridge that used to be up here by me. I wonder if you'll even see the wing tips sitting in a seat looking through the window.

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post Dec 20 2009, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(DNHunt @ Dec 20 2009, 08:00 AM) *

I think that thing needs an Engman stiffening kit. No offense you guys but, seeing the wings flex like that would make me nervous. It kind of reminds me of a bridge that used to be up here by me. I wonder if you'll even see the wing tips sitting in a seat looking through the window.

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Without flex you get breaks. Ever look at a cCorvettes paint or some of the body edges on an older one? They crack. Why? Becuase the fiberglass has little to no flex. All of the oad put on the chassis, is ditributed to the body and the hard corners crack. You need some amount of flex to eliminate disaster. You should be happy to see SOME flex, but yeah too much flex is a bad thing


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post Dec 20 2009, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Dec 19 2009, 12:54 AM) *

I think they'll make alot of money on these once they've, got the logistics figured out. The payload is better and the fuel burn better, that's enough to drive the customers right to them.



Boeing for the most part makes a very good product, and if they can deliver on their promises, this will be very profitable for them.


They are already several billions over the R&D budget and over 2 years behind schedule. Add in the billion or so they'll pay the customers for not making delivery plus a couple billion for the new facility in SC.....the payback on that is maybe 20-30 years.....AND their production schedule is so aggressive as to be absurd. We gots lots more chances to screw the pooch.

Factor in their profit margins of less than 10%. The 787 may well turn out to be a good airplane....by God, it had better be......but the whole program has been so mismanaged that it will be in the textbooks for what not to do.....come to think of it, it was done by textbook...teachers teach rather than produce and are never wrong. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

In case you haven't noticed, all they have gotten done (profitwise) is promises....most all have already been broken. At what point do you think that is going to cease?

The last new airplane program was the 777. The guy that ran that is now running Ford. He was adjudged to be not good enuff to run Boeing......we got a Jack Welsh trained bean counter instead......he's been knocking em' dead, eh?
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post Dec 21 2009, 09:59 AM
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I concur J.P ....Im gonna run over to the 350bldg and try to sneek a pix of some chase planes..and ask why they run with old jets
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post Dec 21 2009, 11:05 AM
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post Dec 21 2009, 11:08 AM
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Sorry about the bad pix ,its the best i can do with what i have to work with
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post Dec 21 2009, 11:11 AM
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Ok so i talk with the machanic he said they use these because there cheap
and super strong and easy to work on ..the T-33 for low speed stuff and the T-38 for hi speed
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post Dec 22 2009, 03:03 PM
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#2 flys... total of 6 test bed`s so we can get the FAA cert`s faster
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post Dec 23 2009, 01:40 PM
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there go`s another paycheck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) that made it sound like i bought them ..No thats what we say when we see them leave for good
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